Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

That letter is utter fucking tripe. So poorly written too.

 

The whole thing stinks of that cretin Steve Wraith like.

 

NCSL are an embarrassment like.

 

They're called Newcastle Consortium Supporters and tweet like a 14 year old girl. They've been an embarrassment from day 1.

 

There are probably a lot of people on here who feel that they can write a more professional sounding letter than the Newcastle Consortium Supporters.

 

Yes, well maybe you can, and maybe you can't.

 

BUT, what the **ck have you actually DONE ?

 

Eh, what have you DONE?

 

These guys have done a lot, and are still doing a lot. We all owe them a debt, a great debt, I am personally very proud of them.

 

it is great to have people who 'care' on our side, people who actually DO something!

 

 

Shut up, man. Fucks sake.

 

Are you ok??

 

I take it you are one of those bedroom "do nothing" types.

 

Go and put a new frame on your Facebook profile picture, man. Shit emojis all over the place. Words in full caps. Shit punctuation. Repeating the same, childish, baseless shit over and over. Your posts are AIDS to my eyes. Grow up.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

That letter is utter fucking tripe. So poorly written too.

 

The whole thing stinks of that cretin Steve Wraith like.

 

NCSL are an embarrassment like.

 

They're called Newcastle Consortium Supporters and tweet like a 14 year old girl. They've been an embarrassment from day 1.

 

There are probably a lot of people on here who feel that they can write a more professional sounding letter than the Newcastle Consortium Supporters.

 

Yes, well maybe you can, and maybe you can't.

 

BUT, what the **ck have you actually DONE ?

 

Eh, what have you DONE?

 

These guys have done a lot, and are still doing a lot. We all owe them a debt, a great debt, I am personally very proud of them.

 

it is great to have people who 'care' on our side, people who actually DO something!

 

 

Shut up, man. Fucks sake.

 

Are you ok??

 

I take it you are one of those bedroom "do nothing" types.

 

Go and put a new frame on your Facebook profile picture, man. Shit emojis all over the place. Words in full caps. Shit punctuation. Repeating the same, childish, baseless shit over and over. Your posts are AIDS to my eyes. Grow up.

 

Fucking hell man

 

[Joey Linton]

It's ironic that that god awful letter to the Prime Minister actually reads like a rambling, incoherent Boris Johnson speech.

 

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius.

 

Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ 

 

Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself.

 

I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up.

 

That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print.

 

Four words in before you f***ed up yourself. Amazing.

 

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/08/this-and-that.html

[loki679]

Would listing the club on the LSE be a workaround? Shares are purchased/sold in open market...

 

Just a shower thought I had ?

 

It's not the buying of the club that's the problem, they could buy it tomorrow if they wanted to.  It's getting the license to play in the PL that's stalling it.

 

 

[Yorkie]

I have no idea what's going on at this point and tbh I don't want to know.

 

I've felt pretty confident, ever since Staveley/Ghodoussi's interview with Caulkin in the aftermath of the 'collapse' in July, that the matter wasn't closed and the same consortium was ultimately still working on the deal being successfully concluded. But I'm so far beyond predicting or trying to understand what the strategy is; why X individual is involved or why Y individual has done or said a certain thing. The involvement of certain professionals and the acceptance among many local journalists that 'something' is still flickering away; that's enough for me to feel somewhat hopeful that a resolution might come our way. But fuck trying to figure out the specifics.

 

It's January 2021 and Ashley is genuinely and proactively trying to get rid of the club for a not unreasonable price. If you'd offered me that scenario 12 months ago, I'd have taken it. It's all a process and I do believe we're getting there. If it takes even another 12 months, so be it. I've hopefully got a lifetime of reengaging with and feeling passionate about my club; I'm prepared to be patient.

[Lazarus]

Is this still the takeover thread? 

[Whitley mag]

It's ironic that that god awful letter to the Prime Minister actually reads like a rambling, incoherent Boris Johnson speech.

 

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius.

 

Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ 

 

Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself.

 

I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up.

 

That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print.

 

Four words in before you f***ed up yourself. Amazing.

 

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/08/this-and-that.html

 

Difference is I don’t criticise others like your good self.

[RS]

There’s been no creditable takeover news for weeks now, just Twittershit from somebody purportedly representative of our fan base making noise. I’d be dubious of becoming bed partners with them, especially after people made a right arse of themselves fawning over mimms.

 

Let’s hope someone actually linked to the takeover gives a positive update soon. I don’t think anyone could stomach another decade of just existing under Ashley’s ownership.

 

 

 

[Toonjam88]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

[Scoot]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

 

Strange behaviour isn't it?

[Shearergol]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

 

Because the very issue of whether or not the takeover is still ongoing is very much open to debate. This is the purpose of the thread. It’s like someone telling posters that they can only post in the Longstaff thread if it’s positive.

 

[RS]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

 

Because the very issue of whether or not the takeover is still ongoing is very much open to debate. This is the purpose of the thread. It’s like someone telling posters that they can only post in the Longstaff thread if it’s positive.

 

Can’t have your cake and eat it like:

The bastards the hounded out Mimms should be hounded out themselves. For me Mimms would have been on by now if he wasn’t pushed out by miserable fuckers he knows something is going down.

 

[Joey Linton]

It's ironic that that god awful letter to the Prime Minister actually reads like a rambling, incoherent Boris Johnson speech.

 

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius.

 

Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ 

 

Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself.

 

I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up.

 

That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print.

 

Four words in before you f***ed up yourself. Amazing.

 

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/08/this-and-that.html

 

Difference is I don’t criticise others like your good self.

 

Except that that's ( ) exactly what you did do.

[Grimsby93]

If you haven't done so then read the full letter to the Prime Minister, absolute rambling nonsense. I very much doubt it will ever see the eyes of the PM. NCSL may well have a QC they keep naming but there is not a chance in hell any of their published letters have been drafted by a junior legal professional let alone a QC.

 

The takeover doesn't really exist anymore, PIF pulled out and Ashley instigated arbitration proceedings. I've no doubt PIF are waiting in the wings to come back if that arbitration is successful and they are given a unilateral undertaking their O&D application would be approved. But right now all we have is a twitter storm whipped up by a few well known individuals, with the expect help of a certain journalist no one had ever heard of a few months ago.

 

They said they would issue legal action through the Competition Appeals Tribunal if they didn't get what they wanted - they then didn't get what they wanted and just wrote more letters, asked fans to written letters to MPs and now a very badly drafted letter to the Prime Minister. It's noise, and just making more noise.... more followers, more views for someone's shows on youtube show... all the whole stringing along fans that are simply desperate after the awful 13 years or so of Mike Ashley.

[thomas]

Happy New Year’s ?

[Chris_R]

 

 

Well if the letter could have been a lot better, why don’t you write one to Boris and stick it up on here ?

 

That would be a constructive way of making a contribution, instead of nit picking over a letter that certainly doesn’t need to be polished. It’s very easy to ‘point out’ as you put it, but the stick these lads have been getting from elements of the fan base is disgusting.

 

Good job they seem to have broad shoulders, as currently they’re a great source of information and are keeping this in the media spotlight.

 

This is such a nonsensical argument. I'm not allowed to criticise because I haven't written a letter myself? Get out of here.

 

That's like saying I can't criticise any of our players unless I'm willing to be a better professional footballer myself. Think the referee made a wrong call? Don't mention it if you've not reffed in the PL yourself. Criticise the government? Not until you've been PM yourself and done a better job!

 

You see how silly it is? It just doesn't work like that, stop talking such utter soil. I have every right to criticise anything I wish that's released into the public domain, especially if it purports to be taking action on my behalf. We already (rightly or wrongly) have an image problem as a fanbase, and as a fan I'm entitled to not want that made worse and I absolutely will speak out if I think that's the case.

 

Again, I'm very much behind the concept of what they're doing but if they're getting "disgusting" stick over this letter, it's because of what they themselves have written. Maybe the fault is there, not with the people pointing that out?

[Whitley mag]

It's ironic that that god awful letter to the Prime Minister actually reads like a rambling, incoherent Boris Johnson speech.

 

And now I think they’ve done it on purpose and in fact it is backed by the legal team and nick the baker is a genius.

 

Boris is now sitting there thinking ‘these people speak my language, I must help my people’ 

 

Oh Joey if your going to be churlish and criticise other people for being incoherent, you need to make sure your spot on yourself.

 

I would have thought some of the other highly intelligent posters on here who have criticised NCSL would have picked you up.

 

That "that that" repetition is an infelicity that that author might have avoided with a bit of rewording so that that "that that" juxtaposition never found its way into print.

 

Four words in before you f***ed up yourself. Amazing.

 

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/08/this-and-that.html

 

Difference is I don’t criticise others like your good self.

 

Except that that's ( ) exactly what you did do.

 

You claimed the letter was a ramble and incoherent, then proceeded to write a sentence that was incoherent.

 

Now that is that.

[Ketsbaia]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

This thread been taken over by stupidity, therefore belonging in the takeover thread.

 

Maybe.

[Rod]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

Exactly my thoughts.  I wish they would all just piss off!

[Whitley mag]

 

 

Well if the letter could have been a lot better, why don’t you write one to Boris and stick it up on here ?

 

That would be a constructive way of making a contribution, instead of nit picking over a letter that certainly doesn’t need to be polished. It’s very easy to ‘point out’ as you put it, but the stick these lads have been getting from elements of the fan base is disgusting.

 

Good job they seem to have broad shoulders, as currently they’re a great source of information and are keeping this in the media spotlight.

 

This is such a nonsensical argument. I'm not allowed to criticise because I haven't written a letter myself? Get out of here.

 

That's like saying I can't criticise any of our players unless I'm willing to be a better professional footballer myself. Think the referee made a wrong call? Don't mention it if you've not reffed in the PL yourself. Criticise the government? Not until you've been PM yourself and done a better job!

 

You see how silly it is? It just doesn't work like that, stop talking such utter soil. I have every right to criticise anything I wish that's released into the public domain, especially if it purports to be taking action on my behalf. We already (rightly or wrongly) have an image problem as a fanbase, and as a fan I'm entitled to not want that made worse and I absolutely will speak out if I think that's the case.

 

Again, I'm very much behind the concept of what they're doing but if they're getting "disgusting" stick over this letter, it's because of what they themselves have written. Maybe the fault is there, not with the people pointing that out?

 

This is a unique situation and not comparable to the examples you have quoted. The examples you have given are all well paid professionals, who have put themselves in a position where you would expect criticism. Why on earth would someone want to criticise 2 fans using there own time, and money for the potential benefit of the whole fanbase ?

 

I’m not accusing yourself of this, and to be honest I really can’t be arsed to scrawl back through old posts, however when people are accusing them of being embarrassing, in what way is that constructive ?

 

If these 2 lads decided to say f*** this, we’d all be worse off as a result. As for potentially embarrassing the fanbase, have a word with yourself, these 2 lads are individually doing more for this fanbase than anyone else I can remember in recent memory.

 

On a final point the latter was not signed on behalf of the fanbase, therefore to imply it reflects on yourself or any other supporter is utter tosh.

 

 

 

[Rod]

If you haven't done so then read the full letter to the Prime Minister, absolute rambling nonsense. I very much doubt it will ever see the eyes of the PM. NCSL may well have a QC they keep naming but there is not a chance in hell any of their published letters have been drafted by a junior legal professional let alone a QC.

 

The takeover doesn't really exist anymore, PIF pulled out and Ashley instigated arbitration proceedings. I've no doubt PIF are waiting in the wings to come back if that arbitration is successful and they are given a unilateral undertaking their O&D application would be approved. But right now all we have is a twitter storm whipped up by a few well known individuals, with the expect help of a certain journalist no one had ever heard of a few months ago.

 

They said they would issue legal action through the Competition Appeals Tribunal if they didn't get what they wanted - they then didn't get what they wanted and just wrote more letters, asked fans to written letters to MPs and now a very badly drafted letter to the Prime Minister. It's noise, and just making more noise.... more followers, more views for someone's shows on youtube show... all the whole stringing along fans that are simply desperate after the awful 13 years or so of Mike Ashley.

You have no idea about strategy have you?  Ashley AND the consortium are playing this very well.  Obviously you can't see that or you are too thick to comprehend it.

[Whitley mag]

If you haven't done so then read the full letter to the Prime Minister, absolute rambling nonsense. I very much doubt it will ever see the eyes of the PM. NCSL may well have a QC they keep naming but there is not a chance in hell any of their published letters have been drafted by a junior legal professional let alone a QC.

 

The takeover doesn't really exist anymore, PIF pulled out and Ashley instigated arbitration proceedings. I've no doubt PIF are waiting in the wings to come back if that arbitration is successful and they are given a unilateral undertaking their O&D application would be approved. But right now all we have is a twitter storm whipped up by a few well known individuals, with the expect help of a certain journalist no one had ever heard of a few months ago.

 

They said they would issue legal action through the Competition Appeals Tribunal if they didn't get what they wanted - they then didn't get what they wanted and just wrote more letters, asked fans to written letters to MPs and now a very badly drafted letter to the Prime Minister. It's noise, and just making more noise.... more followers, more views for someone's shows on youtube show... all the whole stringing along fans that are simply desperate after the awful 13 years or so of Mike Ashley.

You have no idea about strategy have you?  Ashley AND the consortium are playing this very well.  Obviously you can't see that or you are too thick to comprehend it.

 

He’s to thick to comprehend it mate, and clearly has an agenda.

[cubaricho]

You're jumping your own shark here, dude.

 

You should probably take a break from this particular thread.

[Chris_R]

 

On a final point the latter was not signed on behalf of the fanbase, therefore to imply it reflects on yourself or any other supporter is utter tosh.

 

 

Wrong. It doesn't matter what they sign at the bottom, they repeatedly talk about the fanbase as a whole in their letter and indeed in all of their communications.

 

And it doesn't matter if people do things for free or professionally - If you do them publicly, do them well or expect criticism. Then there's a choice: Throw your toys out the pram, or use that criticism to do better next time because, as said, we all want them to do well. But the criticism absolutely is valid and should not be censored just because they're doing it for free. They're representing us, in our eyes AND seemingly in theirs. If we feel the tone is wrong, we have every right to say that.

[Sean]

I don’t quite understand this thread anymore if people don’t  believe the takeover is still a possibility why then come on this thread just to p*ss on peoples chips? Stay off it then.

 

Because the very issue of whether or not the takeover is still ongoing is very much open to debate. This is the purpose of the thread. It’s like someone telling posters that they can only post in the Longstaff thread if it’s positive.

 

It's fucking ridiculous isn't it, theres even a thread specifically for only positive posts, and they still cry if someone says something they don't like 

 

On another note, just rename this thread the Whitley Mag thread, close it and be done with it. He's so deluded and posts so often I'm starting to think he has something to do with these NCSL idiots.

 

Wraith is pulling Liam Kennedy's strings. To laugh at Wraith for being an idiot but not see he's pulling the wool over your eyes would be ironic in the extreme.