et tu brute Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, toontownman said: So the government tried to intervene and still it didn't go through. Why is anyone confident it will now? Wait for the arbitration that’s all we can do. Let’s see if legally PIF are separate from the state. It does not matter what people say or think if they are or not, it’s what legally can be proven. Win the arbitration and it goes through. The leaks this week are off the scale and I honestly think we’re on the back straight for a arbitration decision. Edited April 16, 2021 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) If this was any other industry would this have been stopped because of things outside of what that company does? For example, if they wanted to buy a middling supermarket chain promising thousands of jobs, better affordable produce, etc. Would the head of that industry stall things because of who’s name is on the company? Or if they were to buy a train company and made luxurious trains, more reliable and on time more often, would the same happen there or would they stop it Richard Branson kicked up a fuss because he’d lose out? Just seems fucking shit. Edited April 16, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 We can buy and sell anything to the Saudi’s yes? Weapons, planes, ammunition. So why not let them buy a football club? I don’t get it . Morals can fuk off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 It really looks like Masters and Hoffman were acting on the strict instructions of the top 6 to stall the deal long enough for it not to happen. Let's see what happens to those two after this sorry situation is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montey Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ben said: It really looks like Masters and Hoffman were acting on the strict instructions of the top 6 to stall the deal long enough for it not to happen. Let's see what happens to those two after this sorry situation is over. If sufficient evidence could be gathered to prove this in a court room, then I suspect the Premier League, Masters, Hoffman, and the "top 6" could also be pursued under anti-cartel/competition laws & regulations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Montey said: If sufficient evidence could be gathered to prove this in a court room, then I suspect the Premier League, Masters, Hoffman, and the "top 6" could also be pursued under anti-cartel/competition laws & regulations. I think either way win or lose, both of them won't be working at the Premier League come Christmas, both have done their job as instructed and will be off with nixe golden handshakes and bloated pension pots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Montey said: If sufficient evidence could be gathered to prove this in a court room, then I suspect the Premier League, Masters, Hoffman, and the "top 6" could also be pursued under anti-cartel/competition laws & regulations. This would simply be glorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 A scan of news now this morning definitely has a lot of pro takeover articles. Is someone leaking/putting out info in a coordinated attempt to discredit the premier league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Obviously you can’t deny Bin Salman’s involvement as chairman of PIF, but it’s not the same as him owning the club or being directly involved in its day to day business. And I don’t see the uproar about their other investments on the same level. They’re one of the richest investment funds in the world so naturally they will invest in large businesses used in the western world. Granted their Uber share is only 5%, but the investment was over ten times the size in value. How much of a fuss is kicked up in the media about all the Saudi money that goes into such a successful taxi company? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, St. Maximin said: Obviously you can’t deny Bin Salman’s involvement as chairman of PIF, but it’s not the same as him owning the club or being directly involved in its day to day business. And I don’t see the uproar about their other investments on the same level. They’re one of the richest investment funds in the world so naturally they will invest in large businesses used in the western world. Granted their Uber share is only 5%, but the investment was over ten times the size in value. How much of a fuss is kicked up in the media about all the Saudi money that goes into such a successful taxi company? Surely it comes back to the fact that Saudi openly pirated* premier league TV? *Did nothing to stop the pirating of it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Oh joy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, gdm said: Oh joy I wondered what the reference to September was in De Marco’s tweet yesterday, this makes a little sense of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Surely it comes back to the fact that Saudi openly pirated* premier league TV? *Did nothing to stop the pirating of it anyway. I pirate Premier League TV through my Amazon Firestick, as well hundreds of thousands of others no doubt. Amazon literally make no attempt to block these illegal apps that you can download onto your firestick which you can basically do in under a minute. They are one of the Premier Leagues broadcasting partners yet they still don't make any attempt to stop you doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: I wondered what the reference to September was in De Marco’s tweet yesterday, this makes a little sense of it. I’m the most optimistic person behind manorpark in relation to takeover, however this is due to mussels always being at there best when the month finishes with ‘ber’ at the end. I do however think he knows the correct spelling of ‘leeks’. Edited April 16, 2021 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I’m the most optimistic person behind manorpark in relation to takeover, however this is due to mussels always being at there best when the month finishes with ‘ber’ at the end. I do however think he knows the correct spelling of ‘leeks’. So are we taking Caulkin seriously or does he know little to nothing? Edited April 16, 2021 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, gdm said: Oh joy Another Bruce and Ashley-tastic under prep in the summer then. Another fucking season wasted before it's begun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 So September is the new "next month"? Cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: So are we taking Caulkin seriously or does he know little to nothing? Never read the article mate haven’t got an Athletic subscription anymore. Caulkin is close to Staveley so I presume she would know if arbitration had begun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: So are we taking Caulkin seriously or does he know little to nothing? He is most definitely to be taken seriously. People like to claim he got made a fool of in the summer but he didn't. He reported the situation as Amanda understood it - he's said numerous times that he has contact with her - and then the takeover was Grand Old Duked. I do think he's erred on the side of caution though since the summer and he seems less willing to speculate. If he's putting out dates now he's most likely got good reason for believing so. Depressing. EDIT: Having re-read Geroge's quote in context, I don't think he's saying Spetember. I think it just means "as thing stand, without an arbritration hearing", but now we know a hearing is likely to happen soon. Meltdown averted. Edited April 16, 2021 by Candi_Hills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Arbitration (or even an agreement before arbitration) won't take place before we're mathematically safe. If we were sitting comfortably in the table, we would've had a resolution either way. As soon as it was probable (or even likely) we were going to be relegated, everything was paused. Pointless for two very expensive legal teams fighting for a PL takeover when it may not even be necessary. Edited April 16, 2021 by Rocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: Surely it comes back to the fact that Saudi openly pirated* premier league TV? *Did nothing to stop the pirating of it anyway. Yeah I think it does but the media outrage seems more to do with human rights issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Candi_Hills said: He is most definitely to be taken seriously. People like to claim he got made a fool of in the summer but he didn't. He reported the situation as Amanda understood it - he's said numerous times that he has contact with her - and then the takeover was Grand Old Duked. I do think he's erred on the side of caution though since the summer and he seems less willing to speculate. If he's putting out dates now he's most likely got good reason for believing so. Depressing. Aye he got some amount of shit for the no red flags comment but we are hearing today even Boris Johnson was told it was days away from being done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, gdm said: Oh joy Is this not saying in the current state [of no arbritation taking place] we'll still have MA in charge next season? As opposed to saying it'll not be before August till we get a takeover. I'm sure I read Arbritation is a very quick process once it starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Thumbheed said: Is this not saying in the current state [of no arbritation taking place] we'll still have MA in charge next season? As opposed to saying it'll not be before August till we get a takeover. I'm sure I read Arbritation is a very quick process once it starts. Pretty pointless article then. We all know Ashley remains in place if no arbitration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Pretty pointless article then. We all know Ashley remains in place if no arbitration The articles fine, its just possibly worded poorly paragraph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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