Cronky Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, cubaricho said: Y'all need to drop Rice and replace him with Henderson. Have some actual spine and leadership in the middle of the park. Henderson looks like a captain, and Kane doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, Nobody said: Isn't this a carbon copy of WC18 so far? Got through the group stage with ease without impressing, probably lose to the first decent opposition. We did score 6 vs Panama. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 The football was not pretty but comfortably came first, clean sheets in all games. The tactics might not look all that convincing but cannot argue with the results. Got the job done. At one point, the commentator was pointing out that Southgate's approach is to be pragmatic than adventurous as he believes that is the way to win the trophy. While I hate evaluating a manager based on one game, the next game is going to define Southgate's reign. Give a good account of themselves and he will get a lot of plaudits. If it is a Scotland game type performance, he will be criticized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Kane wasn't that good in the World Cup either. 3 penalties, 2 against Tunisia and a Loftus Cheek shot that just hit off him and went in against Panama Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I fell asleep during the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Another boring 90 minutes, another shitshow from Kane. England will go out next, so it's nearly over. As someone who is sick of the Grealish overhyping, I was really impressed by Saka tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I’d back England to beat Germany or Portugal. Don’t think there’s much in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Kane does look out of form, but I distinctly remember reading in a football magazine circa early '96 that Shearer 'couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo' for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Anon said: Kane does look out of form, but I distinctly remember reading in a football magazine circa early '96 that Shearer 'couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo' for England. The difference with Shearer is that he was a big game player who always produced in big moments and under extreme pressure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: I’d back England to beat Germany or Portugal. Don’t think there’s much in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Ketsbaia said: Another boring 90 minutes, another shitshow from Kane. England will go out next, so it's nearly over. As someone who is sick of the Grealish overhyping, I was really impressed by Saka tonight He isn’t overhyped though. He’s been brilliant the last two years, with end-product to go with his skills. Southgate’s reluctance to use him doesn’t have a lot of logic to it imo. Agree Saka was great, especially first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I'd only back England to narrowly beat Portugal if they played attacking football with Thier defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, St. Maximin said: He isn’t overhyped though. He’s been brilliant the last two years, with end-product to go with his skills. Southgate’s reluctance to use him doesn’t have a lot of logic to it imo. Agree Saka was great, especially first half. Grealish is clearly talented, but there's no clear evidence that he's better than any of Foden, Mount, Sterling, Sancho or, after yesterday, Saka. It's a bit of a coin flip as to which of those you play, yet when Grealish isn't picked some people are acting like Southgate has dropped a prime Maradona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 What am I missing with Rice? Not saying I’ve actively scouted him at all but the few times I’ve seen him for club and country I don’t see anything from him like I do from his peers in that position in other teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: What am I missing with Rice? Not saying I’ve actively scouted him at all but the few times I’ve seen him for club and country I don’t see anything from him like I do from his peers in that position in other teams. Completely agree with this. I've got to the point now that I'm just watching him to try and work out what he does. So many times yesterday when Stones had the ball, Rice drops in to receive it, then lays it to Maguire. He pretty much ended up as a sweeper yesterday. As soon as Henderson came on we started playing the ball forwards, and both centre backs started coming out with the ball themselves. Rice wasn't even a great tackler yesterday either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Completely agree with this. I've got to the point now that I'm just watching him to try and work out what he does. So many times yesterday when Stones had the ball, Rice drops in to receive it, then lays it to Maguire. He pretty much ended up as a sweeper yesterday. As soon as Henderson came on we started playing the ball forwards, and both centre backs started coming out with the ball themselves. Rice wasn't even a great tackler yesterday either. He's a nothing player. A bit like early days Henderson. Henderson of course has branched out from there into a much better player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 He plays like a CB playing in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Just now, ponsaelius said: He plays like a CB playing in midfield. Like a shite Eric Dier Not sure how that's possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hughesy said: Grealish is clearly talented, but there's no clear evidence that he's better than any of Foden, Mount, Sterling, Sancho or, after yesterday, Saka. It's a bit of a coin flip as to which of those you play, yet when Grealish isn't picked some people are acting like Southgate has dropped a prime Maradona. Maybe not, but they are very good players to be fair! I think with Grealish it's not necessarily him being better, but what he is bringing in terms of technique, dribbling etc. It's something different and has the potential to create so many goals even if it's by dragging men over or drawing fouls. I'm not sure why Southgate keeps bringing on Rashford and I don't think Mount has been offering enough in a role Grealish (or Foden) could be more effective in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Good first half for England. Could have been 2-0. Good mixture of control and creating a few decent chances. Second half was kinda boring but 0 goals conceded in 3 games is clearly decent. Ridiculous big game next Tuesday. Will be tough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I’d back England to beat Germany or Portugal. Don’t think there’s much in it. For starters, their teams are quite canny and their players play well together as a unit, so there's that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Hughesy said: Grealish is clearly talented, but there's no clear evidence that he's better than any of Foden, Mount, Sterling, Sancho or, after yesterday, Saka. It's a bit of a coin flip as to which of those you play, yet when Grealish isn't picked some people are acting like Southgate has dropped a prime Maradona. Well, I guess there's an element of hype, but you only have to see the way defenders react when he gets the ball. They're scared and try to stop him by whatever means. He keeps the ball very close to his feet, and it's quite difficult for defenders to win it cleanly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Henderson looked decent when he came on, telling people where to go and that. Not really sure which way Gareth goes in the next round, sometimes feels like he randomly picks someone to create a headline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Kaizero said: For starters, their teams are quite canny and their players play well together as a unit, so there's that. Not sure Portugal do tbh. Think there's a disconnect there between the manager's general pragmatic style and the attacking players they now have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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