et tu brute Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 They're being nice about it, doing the right thing involving the support (the majority will go for it), but at the end of the day it's going to happen. I'm all for it, but then again I would go for a new stadium as long as it's still in the city centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, et tu brute said: It will be a yearly fee not a one off. I'm aware, but £20m-£25m a season for it is a no from me. A Joe Willock a season. Fine with new grounds being renamed, but Chelsea, Man Utd, Everton, Liverpool, Spurs (and yet still) have all managed to spend and compete without renaming their grounds which theyve been playing at more or less for their entire existence. Some have just spent the money they've made better than others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 After putting up with having Sports Direct plastered all over the place and the club getting nowt for it I'd have no objections to this if the money was right. The club needs to generate as much income as possible. We can't expect PIF to prop it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I'm aware, but £20m-£25m a season for it is a no from me. A Joe Willock a season. Fine with new grounds being renamed, but Chelsea, Man Utd, Everton, Liverpool, Spurs (and yet still) have all managed to spend and compete without renaming their grounds which theyve been playing at more or less for their entire existence. Some have just spent the money they've made better than others. 25m a year is roughly a 25% increase of our income, is it not? We can’t expect the owners to keep shelling out their personal wealth to subsidise out rise up the pyramid. FFP won’t even allow them to even if they were willing to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 For me it depends. It would leave bitter taste in my mouth if it was SJP in its current guise. If it was a rebuilt or totally refurbished SJP, that’s a different story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: 25m a year is roughly a 25% increase of our income, is it not? We can’t expect the owners to keep shelling out their personal wealth to subsidise out rise up the pyramid. FFP won’t even allow them to even if they were willing to. Well, nah, because commercial income is not exclusive to stadium naming rights. Man Utd have a ridiculous amount of commercial partners, just from the top of my head they've had Chrevolet, Chivas Regal and what is probably an outrageously lucrative kit supplier deal with adidas. The rest of the big 6 the same, different training wear sponsors, daft things like tyre partners I'd far rather we went down that route first before touching anything to do with the fabric of the club which ultimately to me personally (and probably a few others) is sacrosanct given the way top level football has been going since 1992. Edited October 12, 2022 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: So long as it's relatively tasteful, I can be bough off with the promise of larger transfer kitties/more for wages. So PornHub @ St James isn't out of the question then. At half time they can put some videos on the main screen.....possibilitlies are endless. Edited October 12, 2022 by Awaymag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Awaymag said: So PornHub @ St James is out of the question then. At half time they can put some videos on the main screen.....possibilitlies are endless. Would make a change to previous seasons half time highlights where it was us getting fucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Whatever your opinion, great to see the club want to meet fans before making any contentious decisions. Makes for a bloody delightful change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I await the proposal. Exciting times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: 25m a year is roughly a 25% increase of our income, is it not? We can’t expect the owners to keep shelling out their personal wealth to subsidise out rise up the pyramid. FFP won’t even allow them to even if they were willing to. Yep. And that's just one revenue stream, easy for us to dismiss £25m/year, but I would imagine funding a club this size to the tune of competing for CL football will mean we'll need lots of these type of deals. In isolation they might not look that much, but when NUFC's income on an ongoing basis will be made up of lots of such revenue streams, PIF are an investment organisation at the end of the day, the club will have to be self-sustaining. I'm not saying I want to do this btw, but if we want to compete at the top level then we have to consider it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 If we want to move forward it's something we'll have to get used too otherwise we're going to be stuck roughly where we are forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: I'm aware, but £20m-£25m a season for it is a no from me. A Joe Willock a season. Fine with new grounds being renamed, but Chelsea, Man Utd, Everton, Liverpool, Spurs (and yet still) have all managed to spend and compete without renaming their grounds which theyve been playing at more or less for their entire existence. Some have just spent the money they've made better than others. It’s not though, for example if it was £30 million a season, and we signed 5 x £30 million players on 5 year contracts, only £30 million would count per year due to amortisation - so its a bit more than a Joe Willock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I can live with the stadium sponsorship under these owners as I know it’ll be invested in the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarralad Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Ashley went about it the wrong way, it was all for his own personal gain. Whilst I love the name of our stadium I'll back them if they want to do this considering what they have already given us and what the future holds with them in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Eurgh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) Wembley's actually now known as "Wembley Stadium connected by EE", but no fucker calls it that. "Powered by" is still rather shit but it's far better than Ashley's renaming. Edited October 12, 2022 by WarrenBartonCentrePartin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 It is better and it's not like I'd boycott over it but it would be a bit garish and sad and is prefer if they tried everything else first rather than treating stadium name as easy money maker. Not that there's any sign of them acting that way kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, NWMag said: It’s not though, for example if it was £30 million a season, and we signed 5 x £30 million players on 5 year contracts, only £30 million would count per year due to amortisation - so its a bit more than a Joe Willock The likes of Arsenal's and Man City's sponsorship revenue comes through shirt sponsors which dwarf that of the stadium naming rights. If we were to get a lucrative shirt sponsorship deal that'd be enough. People go on about renaming the stadium as if its inevitable when no club in the league with the exception of Bournemouth has ever renamed their original, existing ground. A partner a la Wembley and EE as above, yeah fine. Changing the ground's name? Fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I stand with Haydn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Unsurprisingly I'm against it. It would take a lot more than what the club's likely to get to make it tempting. 'Powered by...' is shit but better than what Ashley did. 'Sponsored by...' would be a lot better because it still separates the sponsorship from the name, leaving it feeling less tainted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: The likes of Arsenal's and Man City's sponsorship revenue comes through shirt sponsors which dwarf that of the stadium naming rights. If we were to get a lucrative shirt sponsorship deal that'd be enough. People go on about renaming the stadium as if its inevitable when no club in the league with the exception of Bournemouth has ever renamed their original, existing ground. A partner a la Wembley and EE as above, yeah fine. Changing the ground's name? Fuck that. Dont want to be a dick but what qualifies you to say that ”it would be enough” , or what do you base this on? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Pixelphish said: I stand with Haydn. SJP standing with Haydn, has a ring to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Dont want to be a dick but what qualifies you to say that ”it would be enough” , or what do you base this on? Genuine question. As in it'd be enough for me things like the crest, ground, ground name etc are sacrosanct and are parts of the club's soul I personally don't want to tamper with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: SJP standing with Haydn, has a ring to it. Ew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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