sushimonster85 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 50 minutes ago, gdm said: So announced Fun88 is now over but staying on as Asian betting partner. i imagine new sponsor announced and kit reveal soon Imagine the new deal with Sela gets announced Monday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, sushimonster85 said: Imagine the new deal with Sela gets announced Monday. I wonder how much we get for that ? The new fun88 deal that is. Edited June 2, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, gdm said: So announced Fun88 is now over but staying on as Asian betting partner. i imagine new sponsor announced and kit reveal soon Where's this from? Are you sure it's not another Big Frank / Percy parody type? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paullow said: Where's this from? Are you sure it's not another Big Frank / Percy parody type? Looks like its since been deleted, it was up on their official Facebook a short while back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paullow said: Where's this from? Are you sure it's not another Big Frank / Percy parody type? Nufc Facebook page. Weirdly not there now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Looks like its since been deleted, it was up on their official Facebook a short while back. Yeah, was suspicious from the start. Just little things like no full stop after the second paragraph and 'Official Asian Betting Partner' didn't look right either. Edit - ah, just re-read that it actually was on the official site. Probably been hacked, or an intern up to no good Edited June 2, 2023 by Paullow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Someone’s scheduled the Facebook post for the wrong date/time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Question for anyone that knows the ins and outs of FFP.. How would it stand up in court if a club decided to challenge it as restriction of trade ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 57 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Question for anyone that knows the ins and outs of FFP.. How would it stand up in court if a club decided to challenge it as restriction of trade ? This might give some indications. https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/26_07_2013_09_39_47_Fair-or-foul-Part-1-and-Part-2-word.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Gaztoon said: Question for anyone that knows the ins and outs of FFP.. How would it stand up in court if a club decided to challenge it as restriction of trade ? Sports leagues have almost free reign to impose their own rule sets over participants. Affirmed in UK and European law multiple times. its a dead-end any way, we don’t want to turn into ultra-bitter litigious freaks like Citeh have. They do not find following football a fun pastime any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 We should all be very cautious over these Delaney and Panja articles / tweets. There’s clearly something going on behind the scenes as they were briefed on this by likely Liverpool and Spurs. The entire associated party thing will come into question (banning it entirely) and I’d bet money the reason it’s taken so long for us to announce new deals is not only due to where we finish in the league, but the red tape put up after the takeover on commercial deals. Idk what will happen but I’m braced for opposition. I’m actually becoming quite open to the idea of Man United being acquired by Middle Eastern money. It would be another voice in opposition of Liverpool and Spurs. I suspect Chelsea is probably more an opposition to the those two going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 The Delaney article is one of the most appallingly-written things I’ve ever read. Comically bad prose in every paragraph. And the argument - to the extent that it can be called that - is incomprehensible. Both he and Panja have clearly been fed a line by the same disgruntled source - probably some random director at Spurs or wherever - on “viewing these deals through the prism of equity”, but that is absolutely fucking meaningless. “Equity” and “equity investment” are real terms that have actual defined meaning - and a related party sponsorship is not it. There is no rule set or precedent preventing any kind of equity transaction. The Saudis could inject a trillion dollars of cash into us via equity and there’s nothing anyone could do about it (actually spending it would be the issue). It would make no sense for anyone interested in preventing financial doping to view these sorts of things “through the prism of equity”. Someone has fed Delaney and Panja a complete dud of a line and they’ve ran with it because they literally don’t understand what they’re talking about. There will be no ban on related party transactions - it’s completely unworkable. The “equity” argument will be dropped very soon I think once the penny drops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 ^^ I hope there won't be any bans on related party sponsorships; I certainly don't see it happen for a million reasons but I never in a million years thought they'd come up with a "fair maket value" test on all deals until they just popped that out and a group of people determine what is market and what you're "allowed" to have. We just need to keep our watchful eye on this shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, Kanji said: ^^ I hope there won't be any bans on related party sponsorships; I certainly don't see it happen for a million reasons but I never in a million years thought they'd come up with a "fair maket value" test on all deals until they just popped that out and a group of people determine what is market and what you're "allowed" to have. We just need to keep our watchful eye on this shit PIF have shares in hundreds of companies, so surely that’s unfair as it narrows down a wide range of very good options for sponsorship Wrexham have related party sponsorships ? As have Leicester , man city , Arsenal ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 11 hours ago, Kanji said: ^^ I hope there won't be any bans on related party sponsorships; I certainly don't see it happen for a million reasons but I never in a million years thought they'd come up with a "fair maket value" test on all deals until they just popped that out and a group of people determine what is market and what you're "allowed" to have. We just need to keep our watchful eye on this shit No need for any watching at all. The takeover has sent Delaney and Panja peculiar tbh - my advice would be to completely ignore them; a couple of plastic 'big club' supporters whining because their own clubs are under additional threat from another club. Delaney said fuck all about the talk of a KSA takeover of Man Utd (and seemed to welcome it), and has been laughably forced to be a bit vocal re the potential Qatari takeover. Panja is an Arsenal fan who hasn't so much as raised a peep about his club playing in a stadium sponsored by a UAE airline nor his team running out wearing 'Visit Rwanda' on their sleeves - a country where Paul Kagame wins almost 100% of the vote on almost 100% of the turnout due to bent elections, having now been in office for nearly quarter of a century (and effectively running the country for 30 years). They can get fucked, as far as I'm concerned - I don't buy their sudden love of human rights. They come across as risible wankers, and a lot of their criticism (like that tiresome drunk cunt Barry Glendenning) comes across as being soaked in regional prejudice. Once the takeover was approved, it was pretty much game over for them - as per Chelsea, you'd need a govt intervention at this point to force a sale of the club. Restriction of trade is usually frowned upon - football is sailing close to the wind already and possibly would find any challenge to its rules and regs being successful. If any club were to challenge them, it could turn football on its head - ask Jean-Marc Bosman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 22 hours ago, TBG said: Next week with Sam Fender at St James' seems the perfect timing. Really wouldn’t surprise me if he or that smelly Saxophone player is wearing it as part of a reveal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Not a great look for the Reubens... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jun/03/the-billionaires-have-won-english-pubs-forced-to-close-after-owners-demand-full-rent-for-lockdown?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I suppose it would be a bit daft to get super indignant considering the other owners in comparison... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 hours ago, simonsays said: Not a great look for the Reubens... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jun/03/the-billionaires-have-won-english-pubs-forced-to-close-after-owners-demand-full-rent-for-lockdown?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other Is Jamie involved or just associated because it's family? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I know people don’t believe ITK posts so ignore this if you want but I have it on good authority from a very high level source that we have told Castore that 2023/24 will be the last season they will be our kit manufacturer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just now, Matt1892 said: I know people don’t believe ITK posts so ignore this if you want but I have it on good authority from a very high level source that we have told Castore that 2023/24 will be the last season they will be our kit manufacturer. Ties in with rumours last week on twitter that adidas will be out sponsor after next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just now, Matt1892 said: I know people don’t believe ITK posts so ignore this if you want but I have it on good authority from a very high level source that we have told Castore that 2023/24 will be the last season they will be our kit manufacturer. Been discussed in news articles, and also we can’t tell them that this will be the last year. If there is a contract with no break clauses, then there will be little that we could do, unless we compensate them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Read that, so everyone suffered in Covid in one way or another. So I’m guessing the deal that was offered was something like.. “oh you haven’t been able to pay rent for the best part of 2 years.. that’s fine.. when things pick up wound you mind committing to staying for 5 years?” Honestly don’t see what the issue is there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 15 hours ago, simonsays said: Not a great look for the Reubens... https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jun/03/the-billionaires-have-won-english-pubs-forced-to-close-after-owners-demand-full-rent-for-lockdown?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other I know it's odd of me but there's something I seriously don't like about Jamie Reuben, even before this article. I love Amanda and Mehrdad but something about JR sets me off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I’m the same. I think it’s his general demeanor; he’s got that distinct smugness/air about him that only someone born into unbelievable wealth has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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