Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Here, nobson. Everyone else has moved on. You can too. Go have a black coffee or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Locking this for a bit for reasons that are entirely obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 hours ago, ManDoon said: Won’t boo Bruce or miss the game, but will boo taking the knee. Literal mongs came on to mention this. there was more abuse to the taking of the knee than there was towards ashley - and not a single bit of abuse for bruce either. worst thing about today was the realisation that i still actually give a shit about this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said: I do have to say the patter about match going fans is fucking tedious at this stage. It's poisonous, boring and pretty pointless tbh. Newcastle fans will always go to the match regardless unless results and division status turns. History proves this. The Ashley era, very early 90s, the 80s, 70s, its always the same. Booing the knee mind is absolutely embarrassing. All fanbases will have incredibly shortsighted morons on this topic or on vaccines or whatever and will boo. I did hear applause during it though it is still absolutely embarrassing and not representative of the city of Newcastle for me. Been tedious for about 6 years. Weirdest thing is those who dish out the most grief are those who never went regularly in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The booing of the knee was inevitable, will be the same in most ground in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, The Prophet said: The booing of the knee was inevitable, will be the same in most ground in the country. i dont understand why its inevitable. just cant get my head round it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Foluwashola said: Been tedious for about 6 years. Weirdest thing is those who dish out the most grief are those who never went regularly in the first place. What difference does that make? Genuine question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 i think he means longstanding match-goers being lectured to by longstanding armchair fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Glad I missed the match and the resulting match thread on here I've come to realise over the last couple years I am totally disconnected from the fanbase at large, I can't stomach turning up there knowing what is happening/happened to the club I love. It got me worked up way too much when I was turning up and I had fuck all positive to say about the club, and probably boring everyone else who just wanted their day out Still hate Ashley, Bruce can take a flying fuck. Not sure if I'll ever recapture what I loved about supporting Newcastle, even football in general feels tinged. Sorry for the negative shit haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Gets to the stage that when you hate the owner, the manager and the majority of the fan base, what the fuck are people actually supporting?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 wilson, maxi, willock, miggy etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, huss9 said: i dont understand why its inevitable. just cant get my head round it. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately this country is still chocked with racists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It shouldn't be, but unfortunately this country is still chocked with racists. yup. booing the taking of the knee whilst telling anyone who will listen that they arent racist. i'm of asian origin and the missus is of hardy northumbrian stock. i take my mixed-race kids, who've luckily never experienced any racism at school, to watch the team they love. my son was almost in tears today sat in the gallowgate surrounded by adults booing the knee. it really shook him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Has anyone explained why they are booing it exactly? Surely people can't just be fed up with it, because that would be a weird take!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) on the positive side though, it did get a lot of others up off their seats and applaud even louder to drwon the boos out. Edited August 15, 2021 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 The only people I know who don’t like it are older people who think it’s a ‘black power’ gesture and we’re heading for race war or something. There are also excuses like it’s left wing or something, I dunno. Basically they’re racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Sorry to hear that, Huss. Danny Murphy just said he expects most Newcastle fans would've left SJP today feeling relatively pleased. (cos it wasn't a negative performance) He's a good'un is Danny. Barely a brain cell in sight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just realised Jetro Willems is still without a club at the minute ... and we're starting Ritchie at left wing back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just watched the highlights. Has anything changed with the offside rule the last couple of years? I don't understand why the 1-1 goal stood. Even if Soucek didn't touch the ball, isn't he an active player in that scenario by blocking the path for Lascelles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, huss9 said: yup. booing the taking of the knee whilst telling anyone who will listen that they arent racist. i'm of asian origin and the missus is of hardy northumbrian stock. i take my mixed-race kids, who've luckily never experienced any racism at school, to watch the team they love. my son was almost in tears today sat in the gallowgate surrounded by adults booing the knee. it really shook him up. "What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"? You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." Sorry to hear that though, huss. It's an awful experience, especially for a child. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 So after a year of kneeling I would argue that any racial tensions are far more heightened than they were before. These players had been kneeling for damn near a year and as soon as England went out there was a torrent of racial abuse online, so it's clearly been very impactful. Can anyone please explain to me what this kneeling is actually achieving? I find it quite patronising and meaningless. An empty gesture that ticks a box and makes people feel they have done something meaningful. If people really think these kinds of things are going to impact the kind of people that are prejudice then you really must be living in an alternative reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, ManDoon said: Most people have tried to do something about it though, and no one is calling people taking their kids there anything. Or your grandad. But there’s a large section of fans who go there, either whinge/boo/leave early. They shouldn’t have the temerity to complain if they’ve happily paid for what they see. And honestly if they meet any protest with anger then, fuck them. I think people who vote conservative are selfish pricks. Also don’t have sky. Most people on here want to go back to the match but it’s fine to call people out for feeding the destruction of a community asset. They have a choice like Wasn't aimed at you or anyone personally I know how hard it is to organise any sort of substantial protest having been part of them in the past and the frustration that comes with it. Just pointing out there's those that are happy to pay for sports subscriptions that help fund Ashley, those who were happy to line his pockets and go when Rafa was there. Those that won't go but won't be part of any other type of protest. Everyone has a different level of what they are willing to accept, overlook or compromise on so they can try and get some enjoyment out of the game again. Most would be happy to go back if the Saudis took over, happy to have the club used as sportwahsing exercise by people who've committed abhorrent acts if it meant more chance of success. It's easy to argue that that could be seen as a far more selfish attitude. Being honest I'd be back in that scenario too. Probably makes me a hypocrite. So as much as I can disgaree with people going under Ashley now it's daft to resort to abuse because their justifications don't align with my own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, Conjo said: Just watched the highlights. Has anything changed with the offside rule the last couple of years? I don't understand why the 1-1 goal stood. Even if Soucek didn't touch the ball, isn't he an active player in that scenario by blocking the path for Lascelles? He wasn't offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Really? Commentator on the highlights I was watching said that they were checking VAR to see if Soucek touched the ball or not to determine whether it was offside or not, so just assumed that he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, KaKa said: So after a year of kneeling I would argue that any racial tensions are far more heightened than they were before. These players had been kneeling for damn near a year and as soon as England went out there was a torrent of racial abuse online, so it's clearly been very impactful. Can anyone please explain to me what this kneeling is actually achieving? I find it quite patronising and meaningless. An empty gesture that ticks a box and makes people feel they have done something meaningful. If people really think these kinds of things are going to impact the kind of people that are prejudice then you really must be living in an alternative reality. I think quite a few people think that way but just keep quiet for fear of being branded a racist, i wouldn't boo it if i went, i wouldn't applaude it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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