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Newcastle United 2 - 4 West Ham - 15/08/21 - Post-match reaction from page 18


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1 minute ago, neesy111 said:

 

Get absolutely fucked.

 

Plenty of people on here have tried to organise protests but for it all to be thrown back in their faces and criticised by others.

100%, I remember the sheeples booing the Sack Pardew flyers being held up in the ground.

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7 minutes ago, Cronky said:

On the plus side, compared to last season, we played with a lot more aggression and passed the ball better. We did carve out quite a few chances.

 

Shelvey did well in that anchor position, which allowed him time and space to use the ball. Unfortunately, he has no pace and can't tackle, so defensively our back three were very exposed. It was alarming how much time and space the West Ham attack had within our penalty area, even in the first half. That was the by-product of not being able to close down their midfield, who were able to feed the ball in at will. 

 

I don't know what the answer is. A player in that anchor position gets a lot of the ball, and it's great if you have a player who can use it. On the other hand, they need to help the defence as well. Willock will improve our attack, so when he's fit, maybe the best bet is to keep trying to play positively and hope it comes off more times than it doesn't.

 


The answer is to go out and get someone who can pass and run. 
 

We will concede bucketloads this season if we play that defence and Shelvey in front. And we don’t have anywhere near the firepower to make it up. 

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4 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

No, I don't attend, but I don't slate others calling them "cunts" or "mong's" if they do.

 

Their choice, their money.

 

How about, instead of venting all that pent up anger on a forum, yous lot get off your arses and do something about the situation?

 

Oh no, sorry, to much hassle. Best to just watch games on telly and moan online.

 

You're right, it is their choice and their money - but that doesn't stop them all being cunts and mongs like.

 

 

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1 minute ago, jonbobson said:

He can afford it, the TV money more than covers the tkt sales as has been shown.

 

I expected better from you, obviously mistaken.

 

I can afford my council tax bill, doesn't mean I'm happy about it. He loves the money you give him, that's why he stays, why he has stayed for 14 years and why he will be here until he pops it and his kids take over. It's free money with no effort.

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5 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

No, I don't attend, but I don't slate others calling them "cunts" or "mong's" if they do.

 

Their choice, their money.

 

How about, instead of venting all that pent up anger on a forum, yous lot get off your arses and do something about the situation?

 

Oh no, sorry, to much hassle. Best to just watch games on telly and moan online.

“Their choice, their money” absolutely, but those paying their money are essentially showing both Ashley and the PL that they can fuck us over as much as they want.

 

Killed me earlier seeing the ground full and us going 1 up, hearing the roar knowing that I could easily be there and would be under normal circumstances. Forking out £700 or whatever it is just condones the fat cunt and the corrupt PL. Fuck them. 

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Just now, Thomson Mouse said:

:lol:

 

Never heard of these economics before, devalue your product so much that you have to offer it for free.

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If you believe Ashley will never be forced out, you don’t mind that we’ll never try to progress and you just enjoy a day at the match, that’s a valid position IMO. It’s a very strange position for a sports fan to be in mind. 
 

The problem is the people who try to pretend were still a functioning football club or try to pretend there’s more to it. 

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1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

They're part of the problem, they just can't see the bigger picture because it's all about them.


got to admit I’m very surprised it was so many. I assume it was lot of match tickets because it was first day back and people have missed it 

 

 

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There aren't just the two options of either being a violent revolutionary or being a complicit actor in this farce. A passive protest is still a protest. Not spending money on a non-necessity that brings you misery is one of the easiest things you can do.

 

For example, I've stopped giving Blizzard any money via World of Warcraft or Overwatch as a result of the shitty revelations the other week (and also their products turning to wank over the last several years (not unlike us in many ways)). I am not, however, about to march on their offices or harangue anyone on Twitter. Not constantly participating in active, ongoing demonstrations is not the same as doing nothing.

 

You'd be entitled to say it's maybe not as powerful or it doesn't help highlight the problem to get more attention. Those are definitely valid opinions to hold. But you can't throw it back in someone's face as if they're doing nothing.

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4 minutes ago, thomas said:

There aren't just the two options of either being a violent revolutionary or being a complicit actor in this farce. A passive protest is still a protest. Not spending money on a non-necessity that brings you misery is one of the easiest things you can do.

 

For example, I've stopped giving Blizzard any money via World of Warcraft or Overwatch as a result of the shitty revelations the other week (and also their products turning to wank over the last several years (not unlike us in many ways)). I am not, however, about to march on their offices or harangue anyone on Twitter. Not constantly participating in active, ongoing demonstrations is not the same as doing nothing.

 

You'd be entitled to say it's maybe not as powerful or it doesn't help highlight the problem to get more attention. Those are definitely valid opinions to hold. But you can't throw it back in someone's face as if they're doing nothing.


Of course, the complication is if it still gives you enjoyment. If it brings you more misery not to go, for example. 

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15 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


The answer is to go out and get someone who can pass and run. 
 

We will concede bucketloads this season if we play that defence and Shelvey in front. And we don’t have anywhere near the firepower to make it up. 

 

Well, the teams that are better than West Ham will take us to pieces with that set-up. I'm not sure how we'll fare with the teams that are worse. 

 

But you're right. We don't have a decent player for the anchor position. Shelvey and Longstaff are lacking defensively. Hayden is poor in possession and isn't that quick. Hendrick wouldn't want the responsibility and seems to opt for a peripheral postion.

 

There are signs that we're trying to bring in someone for that role, and it would make a big difference if we succeeded.

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24 minutes ago, jonbobson said:

No, I don't attend, but I don't slate others calling them "cunts" or "mong's" if they do.

 

Their choice, their money.

 

How about, instead of venting all that pent up anger on a forum, yous lot get off your arses and do something about the situation?

 

Oh no, sorry, to much hassle. Best to just watch games on telly and moan online.

 

I haven’t. But then again it’s not the only wrong point you’ve made in your recent posts.

 

I would keep going round in circles with you, but you clearly can’t comprehend simple things.

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Going to the game but then pointing out your displeasure does get more exposure than a website participant sitting here saying the players, manager owner, league are cunts. Its difficult as you still went and therefore you were a bum of seat which masks unrest and unhappiness as the camera pans around the stadium and continues to see bums on seats neglecting the obvious that we have had shite served and shoveled down our throats for over a decade.

 

No right or wrong answers I am afraid  one upping or snapping at each other doesn't help a divided fan base is alot easier to control and this has been so prolonged of a shit show I dont blame people for just accepting their lot in the hope one day some how it gets better.

 

 

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Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Of course, the complication is if it still gives you enjoyment. If it brings you more misery not to go, for example. 

 

This is a very good point.  So many fans I know with ST's hate the actual going to the match, it's just something to do I've been told.

I'd bet we'd have 20k if we didn't have SJP so close to all the pubs in the city centre.

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