Joey Linton Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Great gesture by the Reubens everyone’s entitled to their political leanings in a democracy, in no way does it diminish their support of foodbank. Agree with you on this. Edit : which I'm sure is the confirmation you were desperate for. Edited November 20, 2021 by Joey Linton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: Agree with you on this. Edit : which I'm sure is the confirmation you were desperate for. Of course first time for everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Whitley mag said: In no way does it diminish their support of foodbank. I mean, yes it absolutely 100% does because food bank usage has gone up exponentially under the very same tory party that Jamie donates hundreds of thousands to. If he actually gave a shit about the people who use food banks he couldn’t donate to that party. Much like sportswashing it’s a PR exercise so that you don’t even stop to think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smal said: I mean, yes it absolutely 100% does because food bank usage has gone up exponentially under the very same tory party that Jamie donates hundreds of thousands to. If he actually gave a shit about the people who use food banks he couldn’t donate to that party. Much like sportswashing it’s a PR exercise so that you don’t even stop to think about it. C’mon capitalists like the Reuben’s are never going to support the Labour Party. I would guess they share a lot of Tory values hence their support, however it doesn’t mean they like people going hungry. We all vote a certain way but I would doubt we agree with every policy of the party we vote for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: C’mon capitalists like the Reuben’s are never going to support the Labour Party. I would guess they share a lot of Tory values hence their support, however it doesn’t mean they like people going hungry. We all vote a certain way but I would doubt we agree with every policy of the party we vote for. Sports washing the Tories now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: C’mon capitalists like the Reuben’s are never going to support the Labour Party. I would guess they share a lot of Tory values hence their support, however it doesn’t mean they like people going hungry. We all vote a certain way but I would doubt we agree with every policy of the party we vote for. I think their dedication to supporting the food bank is admirable. Unfortunately I think it’s devoid of any interest and/or analysis of why it exists and therefore it’ll mean the square root of fuck all to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: C’mon capitalists like the Reuben’s are never going to support the Labour Party. I would guess they share a lot of Tory values hence their support, however it doesn’t mean they like people going hungry. We all vote a certain way but I would doubt we agree with every policy of the party we vote for. Nice to see a bit of sense brought into the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Tory values are predominantly about them and their pals profiteering directly from doing things that let people go hungry, you can't separate the two when that's the reality. Cut wages, workers rights, and benefits, disband unions, deregulation, deliberately underfund public services to bring in privatisation, get a job with the businesses you helped when you leave politics, blame everything on phantoms with the help of a media that also funds you. It's not a conspiracy or anything, it's their business model. People like Jamie Reuben and big business giving money to food banks and the Tories at the same time is at best a contradiction and at worst just PR - in fact big business often spend more advertising how much they've donated than the amount they've actually donated. People see it as a genuine, honest act and so it works amazingly well. Fund a problem that earns you a fortune, then have people laud and excuse you when you throw back scraps. It's a great deal for them and we saw how far that can be stretched when a nation was duped into applauding the NHS rather than demanding that its staff are paid fairly. And FWIW Kier Starmer's Labour Party would just be the diet version if they had even the slightest chance of getting into power. People like Jamie Reuben are who they're trying to attract. Edited November 21, 2021 by kisearch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Our LGBT+ group has been properly weird about this. Insisting that they can work with the owners to improve human rights in ksa is just outright bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Also Quote HM Revenue and Customs has struck a deal to relocate tax officials into a new office complex in Newcastle owned by major Conservative party donors through an offshore company based in a tax haven, the Guardian can reveal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 It is. At the same time it seems quite common it’s basically the same stance as Gary Neville Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 00:18, kisearch said: Tory values are predominantly about them and their pals profiteering directly from doing things that let people go hungry, you can't separate the two when that's the reality. Cut wages, workers rights, and benefits, disband unions, deregulation, deliberately underfund public services to bring in privatisation, get a job with the businesses you helped when you leave politics, blame everything on phantoms with the help of a media that also funds you. It's not a conspiracy or anything, it's their business model. People like Jamie Reuben and big business giving money to food banks and the Tories at the same time is at best a contradiction and at worst just PR - in fact big business often spend more advertising how much they've donated than the amount they've actually donated. People see it as a genuine, honest act and so it works amazingly well. Fund a problem that earns you a fortune, then have people laud and excuse you when you throw back scraps. It's a great deal for them and we saw how far that can be stretched when a nation was duped into applauding the NHS rather than demanding that its staff are paid fairly. And FWIW Kier Starmer's Labour Party would just be the diet version if they had even the slightest chance of getting into power. People like Jamie Reuben are who they're trying to attract. Exactly. The Tory part needs poor people to stay in power. Profiteering from pain, funding and sustaining inequality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fella Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 00:18, kisearch said: Tory values are predominantly about them and their pals profiteering directly from doing things that let people go hungry, you can't separate the two when that's the reality. Cut wages, workers rights, and benefits, disband unions, deregulation, deliberately underfund public services to bring in privatisation, get a job with the businesses you helped when you leave politics, blame everything on phantoms with the help of a media that also funds you. It's not a conspiracy or anything, it's their business model. People like Jamie Reuben and big business giving money to food banks and the Tories at the same time is at best a contradiction and at worst just PR - in fact big business often spend more advertising how much they've donated than the amount they've actually donated. People see it as a genuine, honest act and so it works amazingly well. Fund a problem that earns you a fortune, then have people laud and excuse you when you throw back scraps. It's a great deal for them and we saw how far that can be stretched when a nation was duped into applauding the NHS rather than demanding that its staff are paid fairly. And FWIW Kier Starmer's Labour Party would just be the diet version if they had even the slightest chance of getting into power. People like Jamie Reuben are who they're trying to attract. I mainly agree with you but the Tories seem to be the most successful party in the history of UK politics, or certainly in the last 40-50 years. There's only so many £100k pa company directors out there to vote for them, so lots of 'average' and working class people must be voting for them to keep getting re-elected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Adam Crafton saying the club hosted a journalist that has repeatedly sent (assuming to him) homophobic abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 That's not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rafalove said: Adam Crafton saying the club hosted a journalist that has repeatedly sent (assuming to him) homophobic abuse. Not sure that’s quite correct? What I saw was that Alwaleed fella has hosted a show in Saudi which he invited the homophobic journo onto. Nothing to do with the club I don’t think but still not a great look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 How does a club 'host' a journo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 You might be right. Though that wouldn’t in particular bother me too much so long as Staveley hasn’t personally invited him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Original tweet was about the Saudi Gazza, not the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Don't the Saudi's have financial involvement at ManUre? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Yeah. And Disney, and Subway, and all our bairn’s schools, and Pluto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Heron said: Don't the Saudi's have financial involvement at ManUre? They had a sponsorship deal with Saudi Telecom since 2008 and it was still in place as of 2017, not sure if that is still going In 2017 they agreed a strategic partnership with the General Sports Authority of Saudi Arabia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: They had a sponsorship deal with Saudi Telecom since 2008 and it was still in place as of 2017, not sure if that is still going In 2017 they agreed a strategic partnership with the General Sports Authority of Saudi Arabia Cheers Seems funny that Man United supporting journalists seem desperate to connect us with theit regime and anything out of Saudi then without considering the hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Apologies if already posted, didn't want to put this in the Greenwood thread but saw the below tweet celebrating the sacking of that guy and our fans orchestration of that and made me really uncomfortable. Edited February 3, 2022 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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