Eddie Howe

[Nobody]

5 minutes ago, Wullie said:

I'd have preferred Emery given the situation we're in but I've said before that I think the disrespect Howe gets is appalling. In any other country in Europe, a manager who took a club from bottom of the fourth tier to the top flight would have some of the biggest clubs in the land fighting over him.

 

 

 

You're not wrong, I just feel that both him and Martinez are completely the wrong choices for what we need right now.

Fairly or not, it will raise questions for me regarding their ambition in January if it's Howe, as he's never been at a club anywhere near as big as Newcastle, and his profile certainly isn't the highest. In that sense (and only in that) I think Martinez might be a better candidate, as at least he's worked with world class players. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

I think it'd work if transfers are taken relatively out of his hands as he is a good coach.

I hope I’m proved wrong and he is a success but I’ve always thought he’s overrated and would be a disaster here

[McCormick]

I guess I can go back to disliking Emery’s  stupid Bond-villain, rat face.

 

Shan as fuck, but it’s how I’ll cope.

[Consortium of one]

so last week Edwards was a no-nothing knob but today a lot of people are agreeing with him?

 

[HaydnNUFC]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

I hope I’m proved wrong and he is a success but I’ve always thought he’s overrated and would be a disaster here

 

Why? Genuinely out of interest. You've already mentioned his transfers, what else?

[deejeck]

3 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said:

Can see the media coverage now if we have to sack Howe:

 

’Young, handsome, blonde haired, blue eyed, up and coming, well liked, British,  Howe, was treated disgustingly by the over demanding Northerners after unluckily winning 0 games and sliding out the Premiership’

Eddie Howe and Garry Monk should form a boy band.

[et tu brute]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Why? Genuinely out of interest. You've already mentioned his transfers, what else?

 

His defensive record, just have a look at how many goals Bournemouth conceded each year, which is exactly the one key area we need to strengthen immediately.

[Hughesy]

Still surprised that we haven't gone after AVB.  Unless he's also not interested.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Why? Genuinely out of interest. You've already mentioned his transfers, what else?

His teams defensive record is a huge concern, the fact he went down with a better squad than we have now. His last 27 games (which is pretty much what we have left) he failed to win 21 of them and lost 19. He seems to have no plan b, and Bruce annihilated his side ?

[McCormick]

Howe is fine but there are understandable question marks over his time with Bournemouth, especially his last season.

 

The unfortunate thing is, he is an obvious downgrade from Emery which is difficult to get over at this point.

[Wolfcastle]

1 minute ago, Consortium of one said:

so last week Edwards was a no-nothing knob but today a lot of people are agreeing with him?

 

 

Its more that he agrees with us. He's not swayed anyones opinion and there's no way you can say this has been impressive.

[Guest HTT II]

12 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I get the point you are making but he did spend a ridiculous amount of money in doing so and his last season at Bournemouth was a disaster as was his transfer record.

He spent an average of just over 35m a season over his 5 years, that’s was to keep a basically league one club in the top-flight for five seasons, he spent over 10m on over 10 players in that time, the bare basic rate for even some absolute dross at this level and even at Championship level. Factor in they had to also overpay to get targets in. You can’t compare that by saying he had a higher net spend than Liverpool because they didn’t need to spend massively as they mostly had a team full of top players and their net spend is skewered by them making a lot of money selling players. There is no doubt he spent money very poorly, but 35m a season to keep a club up with 12k fans at most from a position of league one where it all started is fucking money more than well spent. We spent more than their entire net year spend per season on Joelinton… 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by HTT II

[HaydnNUFC]

Just now, et tu brute said:

 

His defensive record, just have a look at how many goals Bournemouth conceded each year, which is exactly the one key area we need to strengthen immediately.

 

We also struggle with our next to non existent midfield and our only existing attacking plan being pass the ball to ASM, inshallah. If ASM has an off day it ends up being hoof it up to Wilson. 

 

He'll play players in their correct positions, play useful formations and will actually coach players who need it. It's a start.

[Numbers]

Well this is a shit show 

[Joey47]

The only way they can redeem themselves now is to go all out to get Ten Hag 

[GWN]

Just come on to have a look, wtf has happened lads ? 
 

[Superior Acuña]

Martínez left his last two clubs worse than he found them. (Before that at Swansea he did well, managing to do one of the several promotions Howe did).  Howe left Bournemouth two divisions higher and spent 5 years with them three divisions higher.

 

If we're focusing on the relegation, Martínez took over a PL club and got them relegated within 4 years. Howe took a club into the PL and got them relegated in 5 years.

 

I was happy with Emery but Martínez v Howe is no contest for me. 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Inferior Acuña

[HaydnNUFC]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

His teams defensive record is a huge concern, the fact he went down with a better squad than we have now. His last 27 games (which is pretty much what we have left) he failed to win 21 of them and lost 19. He seems to have no plan b, and Bruce annihilated his side ?

 

They had an unprecedented amount of injuries that final season by their standards, Howe's talked about it on MNF. Bruce has also annihilated a Brendan Rodgers team, a Manuel Pellegrini team. Doesn't make them any of them less good managers. 

[et tu brute]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

 

We also struggle with our next to non existent midfield and our only existing attacking plan being pass the ball to ASM, inshallah. If ASM has an off day it ends up being hoof it up to Wilson. 

 

He'll play players in their correct positions, play useful formations and will actually coach players who need it. It's a start.

 

If you believe that, then fine, I think he will be an absolute disaster. Time will tell as I think he will be the manager

[Shearergol]

15 minutes ago, Wullie said:

I'd have preferred Emery given the situation we're in but I've said before that I think the disrespect Howe gets is appalling. In any other country in Europe, a manager who took a club from bottom of the fourth tier to the top flight would have some of the biggest clubs in the land fighting over him.

 

Disrespect he's getting on here you mean? I think plenty of people have stated that they just feel he's not a good fit for us, especially in our current situation. That's hardly disrespectful.

[midds]

Hard to argue they've not made a complete horse's arse of this so far, bordering on a public embarrassment. Delays, leaks and questions raised about the vision and direction of the club and the requirements of the main job. 

 

At best it shows a huge degree of naivety, at worst it looks completely amateurish. Taking their time to get the right bloke was sensible, to still be looking around a month later and being very publically snubbed by their main targets reflects very poorly on Staveley in particular. We all know Charnley's limitations but I had far higher expectations of her and her advisors. They need to get their shit in a pile asap. 

[mouldy_uk]

1 minute ago, Joey47 said:

The only way they can redeem themselves now is to go all out to get Ten Hag 

I’m sure he is anonymously browsing here this minute, thinking about what an amazing opportunity this is and how great the fans are ?

[the fella]

41 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

I'm not defending the decision by any means, but he's been running the day to day operations if the club for the last few years, he probably has more experience than any of the consortium in football related matters. 

 

It goes to show how badly we need CEO and a sporting director.

Exactly, who else is going to do it? He's the only senior person at the club presently with any football administration experience. 

[Wullie]

It's difficult to overstate what a tiny club Bournemouth are. Their ground holds 11,000 people, and that's after recent expansion. Before Eddie Howe, they had spent their entire history (other than 3 seasons in the 80s) in the 3rd and 4th tiers. 15 years ago, they were on a par with Hartlepool United in terms of size, attendances, history.

 

I'm afraid "but he got relegated!" doesn't really wash with me. I can't stand this attitude that if I get the Dog and Duck into the Premier League for five seasons then get relegated, that then makes me an unemployable joke.

[Danh1]

1 minute ago, midds said:

Hard to argue they've not made a complete horse's arse of this so far, bordering on a public embarrassment. Delays, leaks and questions raised about the vision and direction of the club and the requirements of the main job. 

 

At best it shows a huge degree of naivety, at worst it looks completely amateurish. Taking their time to get the right bloke was sensible, to still be looking around a month later and being very publically snubbed by their main targets reflects very poorly on Staveley in particular. We all know Charnley's limitations but I had far higher expectations of her and her advisors. They need to get their shit in a pile asap. 

Aye.

 

Thing is, she did say if they didn’t do a good job, PIF would make sure that they’re not in charge of running things pretty quickly. Wonder how they feel about this today?