Guest reefatoon Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, Chicken Dancer said: I'd be astounded if they haven't got anybody lined up - they're sure to have been speaking to agents/managers for a few weeks indicating this was close and establishing interest in the job. I'll be shocked if Bruce is here by Sunday evening. I wouldn't even let him empty his desk, fuck him. Better to just burn the desk, it'll be lathered in lard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Fwiw I think whoever becomes manager, wether we all universally want him or not, the key difference now is that he will have to get results or he will be replaced. There will be no more long dreadful runs of losses without consequences and that in itself is exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 If the elites like Conte et al don't fancy the job yet I'd be happy with Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I would say I'm surprised at the flak Southgate still gets after leading England to their first final in 51 years, but I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: I would say I'm surprised at the flak Southgate still gets after leading England to their first final in 51 years, but I'm not. He achieved good results, of course. But he had a fantastic team with which to do it. And on the flip side, his teams play shit football, and he's incapable of effectively using substitutes to change a game. In fact, from what I saw he's almost incapable of using substitutes at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasdotin Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Adam Johnson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Nobody else fancy AVB in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 There can be only one. it is time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I would say I'm surprised at the flak Southgate still gets after leading England to their first final in 51 years, but I'm not. Biggest bottle job going. Great bloke and credit for getting us to a final but I’d like someone with a track record of winning, not someone who constantly falls short, IMO through his own poor decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) Southgate suits being an international manager more than a club manager. The emphases are different. He can instil the right atmosphere with limited time, works with good coaches who compensate for his weaknesses and strikes the right relationship with all the people he needs to. International football is slower and he sets up his team in a balanced and compact way, where they're not going to be too exposed to individual errors. He's proved himself very adept at it and shown more understanding of the qualities needed for an international coach more than any England manager post-Ramsay. Club management is a little different though and he's far from proven at it. Edited October 8, 2021 by ATF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nasdotin said: Adam Johnson? Stop spamming ya bellend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I would say I'm surprised at the flak Southgate still gets after leading England to their first final in 51 years, but I'm not. Doesn't tell the full picture. Southgate will rightly be a legend for going further than anyone else but nobody has had the sheer depth of talent he has had and we have played some terrible football when we get to the tournaments. I'm full of respect for him but shouldn't be anywhere near Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Shouldn't we be planning for something more long term? Conte only stays for two seasons before moving on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Would absolutely take Southgate. You serious? He's just as bad as Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Southgate is a tosser. He inherited the best squad of players in 50 years and still failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Aye, Southgate would be an awful underwhelming appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 He would play 9 defensive players, and put Chiesa, Haaland, etc on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Magpie said: You serious? He's just as bad as Bruce Christ on a bike. Cba with arguing to that extent. I like Southgate, I think he's very honest and dignified and I think he managed the England team fantastically well for the most part in the Euros, including (/especially) team selections and tactical choices. Wasn't flawless, like, mistakes did happen, including tragically in the final. But England have had some amazing squads of players and not progressed to anywhere near the extent he did, so I don't think the suggestion that he wasted the talent is a fair one at all. Without being too catty, I think comparing him to Bruce is absolutely laughable. He's a billion times the man, of nothing else. I don't think he's an amazing manager. The main reason why I'd like Southgate is cos I know him (not personally obvs), like him and respect him. That is an absolute world away from the current wanker. But appreciate that he wouldn't be everyone's choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, gjohnson said: A cheque with 7 zeros says he would He's literally the highest paid coach in sports history as it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Christ on a bike. Cba with arguing to that extent. I like Southgate, I think he's very honest and dignified and I think he managed the England team fantastically well for the most part in the Euros, including (/especially) team selections and tactical choices. Wasn't flawless, like, mistakes did happen, including tragically in the final. Without being too catty, I think comparing him to Bruce is absolutely laughable. He's a billion times the man, of nothing else. The main reason why I'd like Southgate is cos I know him (not personally obvs), like him and respect him. That is an absolute world away from the current wanker. But appreciate that he wouldn't be everyone's choice. You're right, comparing him to Bruce was a massive faux pas on my part so apologies. But I just think he's just so tactically inept. Totally agree he seems like a proper decent bloke, and has brought some excellent qualities to the England set up. Just not on the pitch. Could make an excellent DoF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, triggs said: He's literally the highest paid coach in sports history as it is And? We are now literally the richest football team in history Edited October 8, 2021 by gjohnson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Christ on a bike. Cba with arguing to that extent. I like Southgate, I think he's very honest and dignified and I think he managed the England team fantastically well for the most part in the Euros, including (/especially) team selections and tactical choices. Wasn't flawless, like, mistakes did happen, including tragically in the final. Without being too catty, I think comparing him to Bruce is absolutely laughable. He's a billion times the man, of nothing else. The main reason why I'd like Southgate is cos I know him (not personally obvs), like him and respect him. That is an absolute world away from the current wanker. But appreciate that he wouldn't be everyone's choice. Yeah. Comparing him to Bruce [just as a human] is just out of order. I feel for Southgate but wouldn't want him as manager. I don't consider him to be a failure, he reached the WC final. As mad as it is, I think we scored too early against Italy, simple as that. We were not set up to take advantage of the disarray in the Italian ranks that resulted from that goal. It would have been brilliant if he'd had the courage to change tings at that point, particularly because of how his substitutions eventually turned out, but he was never going to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Yeah. Comparing him to Bruce [just as a human] is just out of order. I feel for Southgate but wouldn't want him as manager. I don't consider him to be a failure, he reached the WC final. As mad as it is, I think we scored too early against Italy, simple as that. We were not set up to take advantage of the disarray in the Italian ranks that resulted from that goal. It would have been brilliant if he'd had the courage to change tings at that point, particularly because of how his substitutions eventually turned out, but he was never going to do that. We didn’t have a shot for 70 minutes and he didn’t make any changes, despite having all the talent in the world on the bench. No attempt at all to stop the dry bumming we were receiving for 3/4 of the game. Bottled! Absolute gem of a human being. I have met him a couple of times and he’s just as nice and humble as he comes across, but I don’t want him anywhere near NUFC, unless it’s as DOF as mentioned above. Edited October 8, 2021 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, Holmesy said: We didn’t have a shot for 70 minutes and he didn’t make any changes, despite having all the talent in the world on the bench. No attempt at all to stop the dry bumming we were receiving for 3/4 of the game. Bottled! Thought I had addressed that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Nee offence but I reckon you've probably bottled out of much less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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