Eddie Howe

[AyeDubbleYoo]

4 hours ago, mouldy_uk said:

Agreed, I avoid like the plague. Surely there is a balance between usability, content and adverts which brings users back (as it’s subtlety done) but still generates revenue. 

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[Barnes23]

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Newcastle boss Eddie Howe to BBC Sport: "I thought it was a good performance, especially the start. We were good for the first half an hour. We came under pressure. The game was decided in the incident with Callum Wilson and the penalty - a tough call against us – then they scored in the aftermath.

"I don’t know why Callum would go down – he was one on one, a great chance. Games swing on those moments. It feels like those big calls have gone against us.

"Great save [from Aaron Ramsdale to deny Jonjo Shelvey]. I thought it was in. The pleasing thing today is how we started and finished the game. We created chances. Ramsdale has played well. We weren’t clinical but at least we were creating chances.

"The players have been very responsive. They have given everything in the two games. I can’t ask more than their best.

"We just have to look at the first one [game against Norwich]. Momentum in football is so important. We need to get that win as quickly as we can.

"It is great to be back. You don’t enjoy losing. Managing and being out there in action is what it’s all about."

 

 

Not going to read too much into press conference waffle but managers talking about isolated moments and incidents has always been a bit of a red flag for me, especially if it becomes a consistent pattern. We were never going to win that game, our problems are much deeper lying than any single refereeing decision. 

 

We didn't create many chances, either. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Barnes23 said:

 

Not going to read too much into press conference waffle but managers talking about isolated moments and incidents has always been a bit of a red flag for me, especially if it becomes a consistent pattern. We were never going to win that game, our problems are much deeper lying than any single refereeing decision. 

 

We didn't create many chances, either. 

Every single manager points out isolated moments in defeat, look at Klopp and pep in defeats they all do it.

[ATF]

Deflect attention, focus publicly on the positives, defend the players. It's broadly what you have to do in interviews. He has no real option but to channel some positive focus. Can work on fixing the weaknesses in private.

[Cf]

Response seemed fine. 

 

What do you expect him to say?

 

"The squad is shit, and the Bruce effect can't be underestimated. We will do the best we can with them before the transfer window."

 

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[Barnes23]

 

Just now, POOT 2.0 said:

Can't be talking about red flags, already? 

 

 In the grand scheme of things it's obviously not that important, I'll be judging him over the course of the rest of the season as we all will. As much a reflection of my dislike for post-match managerial BS as much as anything else. 

 

4 minutes ago, Cf said:

Response seemed fine. 

 

What do you expect him to say?

 

"The squad is shit, and the Bruce effect can't be underestimated. We will do the best we can with them before the transfer window."

 

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Positivity is fine, I don't like misrepresentation though. Even if all managers do it to an extent. The positives of the game were the workrate/effort of the team and the organisation and discipline seen in the first half, and a few individual performances. Not much more can be said except for the areas where we need to work and bring about improvements. 

[midds]

He's walked into a shambles and although I'm not keen on seeing the type of football we saw today he's got such little quality in the squad he's left with few other options. I'd absolutely love to see us go toe to toe away to arsenal and match them but we simply don't have the players to do that at this moment, this squad is not fit for purpose, it's rank in all departments. 

 

He gets all the time (and funds) he needs from me, I'll not be criticising him after a few games, he needs support and patience from the fans, he's not a miracle worker. 

[TRon]

In many ways it might have been a safer bet to bring in a more cautious manager, Unai Emery would have fit the bill in that regard, if he wasn't a bottling wanker. It was always going to be a tough ask to bring in someone like Howe who believes in attacking football and expect a transformation from the way we've been playing for the past 5 years. I know I keep banging on about it, but when Keegan took over from Allardyce, we went 8 games before winning a game, and we looked even more hopeless than now. Then he gradually got them going again by insisting they play positively, and he would take full responsibility for results. 

 

It will take something similar here. Players will need confidence building to get forward in numbers, Howe will need to learn quickly that we need proper wing backs otherwise Ritchie/Fraser/Murphy will keep costing us goals. I still think he will turn it around, whether it will happen with this squad of players is another matter. That is really going to test his skills as a coach. 

[Hanshithispantz]

Was probably a bit of a baptism of fire for him like 

 

The  way Arsenal pressed us until they got their 2nd is probably what he will be hoping from us (and might have been expecting it to a degree today) but we just don't have the players for it.

[toon25]

45 minutes ago, midds said:

He's walked into a shambles and although I'm not keen on seeing the type of football we saw today he's got such little quality in the squad he's left with few other options. I'd absolutely love to see us go toe to toe away to arsenal and match them but we simply don't have the players to do that at this moment, this squad is not fit for purpose, it's rank in all departments. 

 

He gets all the time (and funds) he needs from me, I'll not be criticising him after a few games, he needs support and patience from the fans, he's not a miracle worker. 

Absolutely spot on Midds.

[Yorkie]

Saw nowt of today but he needs to fuck off thinking playing the likes of Emil Krafth is any way to get results. It's not 'worrying,' cos it's ridiculously early in his tenure, but Jesus Christ howay. You can make all the progress in the world in terms of getting fitness and motivation up, and changing the philosophy; but sticking that non-footballer and Matt Ritchie at full-back is going to result in zero points. 

 

Really hope decisions like that are few and far between or we'll get nowhere. Madness to me that Manquillo isn't getting anywhere near the pitch atm, he's basically the only competent full-back in the squad; other than Dummett, who we're also absolutely desperate for at this point. 

[buzza]

Ritchie tries hard but he is no defender, krafth doesn´t really do anything, apart from back off until the attacker gets his pass/shot off, as far as I can see...

Manquillo should be playing and Fernandez, don´t know what the story is there.

[MarkyMark]

Difficult to criticise a manager this early, though the selections are baffling.  Krafth is possibly the worst defender I’ve seen get regular game time in a B&W strip since the early ‘90s.

 

Still baffled by how a month-long ‘process’ and multiple interviews ends with a bloke being appointed who could’ve been appointed yonks ago.

 

Personally, Howe leaves me non-plussed.  But he’s a thousand times better than Bruce. 

[Away Toon]

In my case the jury is definitely out until we see if Howe has learned anything from his last relegation with Bournemouth. The early signs and team selections are not promising.

[Thiago]

If we went down narrowly would people want him to stop on?

[Izakaya]

14 minutes ago, Thiago said:

If we went down narrowly would people want him to stop on?

Howe would already be the best we could get given our position, so yeah I'd keep him. 

[Superior Acuña]

With playing the likes of Krafth and Ritchie - I'm inclined to think Howe's team spend most days training with them and analysing stats, and are experts compared to me - so they're understand something I'm not. Was less inclined to concede that to Bruce as not sure he was really doing any of that...

[et tu brute]

8 minutes ago, Thiago said:

If we went down narrowly would people want him to stop on?

I thought he was totally the wrong choice in the first place, but you’re still probably not going to attract top managers in the Championship (or players). Maybe by then also some on here will get their wish and Rafa will be available to come in. 

[et tu brute]

Just now, Inferior Acuña said:

With playing the likes of Krafth and Ritchie - I'm inclined to think Howe's team spend most days training with them and analysing stats, and are experts compared to me - so they're understand something I'm not. Was less inclined to concede that to Bruce as not sure he was really doing any of that...

All they had to do was watch the highlights of the goals conceded in the last couple of years to see they were an obvious weakness. 

[cubaricho]

25 minutes ago, Away Toon said:

The early signs and team selections are not promising.

How short everyone’s memory is. Last week was the best we’ve played in god knows how long.  

[r0cafella]

35 minutes ago, Thiago said:

If we went down narrowly would people want him to stop on?

IF we invest in January and still end up relegated he needs replacing imo. 

[GWN]

Honestly can’t believe what I’m reading , the snipes at Howe , already, is fucking unbelievable.

 

Just let him try and get the best out of some utter shite ok, none of this is his fault , it will take time and will get worse , we 99% will go down but I’d want this guy at the helm going forward 100% .

 

 

[STM]

7 minutes ago, GWN said:

Honestly can’t believe what I’m reading , the snipes at Howe , already, is fucking unbelievable.

 

Just let him try and get the best out of some utter shite ok, none of this is his fault , it will take time and will get worse , we 99% will go down but I’d want this guy at the helm going forward 100% .

 

 

It's embarrassing. It's like some can't stop the emotion from clouding their brains.

 

Arsenal are a very difficult side to beat and they keep the ball very well, it was always going to be tough. 

 

We could have very easily been 1-0 up at half time and that's without the pen. First goal was crucial.

 

Second half was shite but hardly an indictment of Howe.

 

Play like we did against Brentford and we beat Norwich and Burnley.

[jackyboy]

Like GWN, I can't believe some of the comments on here about Howe. Amazing how they can all pick a better team without the advantage of watching them in training all the week. Such comments are food for all of the people and pundits out there who think that the Newcastle supporters are delusional and have a sense of entitlement.

Howe summed it up by saying that the players did there best and he can't ask for anymore. 

He has inherited a dreadful unbalanced squad of players, most of them being unfit for purpose and that's what we've got until January / February assuming we can make some acquisitions.

Howe needs and deserves all the support he can get. Unlike the previous management team, they are giving it their all and being professional. It's a long road ahead

 

[Stottie]

14 hours ago, TRon said:

 I know I keep banging on about it, but when Keegan took over from Allardyce, we went 8 games before winning a game, and we looked even more hopeless than now. Then he gradually got them going again by insisting they play positively, and he would take full responsibility for results. 

 

Well remembered. Click on the games and we were playing a back four of Carr, Cacapa, Taylor and N'Zogbia and Smith playing up front. It's lost somewhere in my own memory, but it won't have been pretty. 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/kevin-keegan/leistungsdatenDetail/trainer/453/verein_id/762/datum_zu/2008-01-16/datum_ab/2008-09-04

 

Under Bruce last season we gained 17 points from the first 11 games, then 11 points from 18 games, nigh on half the season, and finally 17 points from the last 9. I'm sure Eddie Howe could equal that 17 points from 11 games with some properly spent PIF money. A point a game the rest of the time, dour relegation-mixer form, will get us to 37. So in theory, not impossible with plenty of money on the table.

 

One problem we have is the fixtures have set us up easy then hard, then easy starting before the window even closes, and finally hard right at the end. Bruce pissed away the early easy games this season, leaving Howe to play catchup in the hard ones with no chance to bring bodies in. The remaining easier fixtures are during or soon after the transfer window, meaning the new players must slot straight in and produce immediately. It's a tall order, but one I'm sure the club are already aware of. However, the point above about Bruce still stands. You can go half the season, nearly four full months, picking up 11 points from 18 games and it doesn't matter so long as you hit decent form some other time. I don't have high expectations of our squad, I'm not that stupid, but there is no fucking way those expectations are going to be lower under Eddie Howe and PIF than they were under the fat fucks we had as an owner and manager before.