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1 minute ago, TRon said:

Was great to see him getting such a fabulous ovation from the Bournemouth fans at the end of the game. Especially after the way he left considering all he had done for them.

 

You could see how much it meant to him. Lovely moment. 

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Just now, wormy said:

 

You could see how much it meant to him. Lovely moment. 

 

That tiny ground with it's 11k capacity when he took over brought it home just what he achieved there. Incredible story tbh.

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9 minutes ago, SteV said:

Shelvey played half an hour for Forest today. His first minutes since we sold him. So unless you think him coming on for us for half an hour today would have won us the match, selling him has cost us zero points so far.

Disingenuous argument; he’s been injured most of the season. He’d have come on today and would get minutes over the next month in my view. None of our midfielders outside Bruno can play a through ball; he can. Stupid gamble.

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Just now, Theregulars said:

Disingenuous argument; he’s been injured most of the season. He’d have come on today and would get minutes over the next month in my view. None of our midfielders outside Bruno can play a through ball; he can. Stupid gamble.

No, it’s not a disingenuous argument because I’m responding to the claim that his sale has already cost us points. Which IMO, it hasn’t.

 

If you want to argue that it may do going forward, fair do’s, I wouldn’t argue. But you can’t really say it has already.

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Just now, SteV said:

No, it’s not a disingenuous argument because I’m responding to the claim that his sale has already cost us points. Which IMO, it hasn’t.

 

If you want to argue that it may do going forward, fair do’s, I wouldn’t argue. But you can’t really say it has already.

That’s not what I’m arguing. I’m arguing it’s a needless gamble. Sounds like we agree, really!

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16 minutes ago, SteV said:

Shelvey played half an hour for Forest today. His first minutes since we sold him. So unless you think him coming on for us for half an hour today would have won us the match, selling him has cost us zero points so far.

What’s your point?

 

My point is we needed a CM while Shelvey was here. We now need 2.  We needed those players because our first team included all of our fit CMs and any injuries would leave us seriously short.  Had we properly addressed CM in the January window, we would have more points than we do now.  
 

At the end of todays game we have 2 fit and available CMs in the entire squad. 1 of which is 1 YC away from a 2 game suspension.  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

What’s your point?

 

My point is we needed a CM while Shelvey was here. We now need 2.  We needed those players because our first team included all of our fit CMs and any injuries would leave us seriously short.  Had we properly addressed CM in the January window, we would have more points than we do now.  
 

At the end of todays game we have 2 fit and available CMs in the entire squad. 1 of which is 1 YC away from a 2 game suspension.  

 

 

 

My point is if you think selling Shelvey has already cost us points, I disagree.

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"Newcastle are now unbeaten in the last eight PL games on the road, beating their longest run in that competition from the 2003/04 season (bizarrely, that sequence of seven games were all draws).

Their longest unbeaten away league sequence remains 10 games during the 1907/08 First Division, while the 2009/10 Championship season included a run of nine without defeat away from SJP."

 

As deflating as today was, stats like this still blow my mind. We weren't even achieving away runs like this under KK and Bobby.

 

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Just now, Rich said:
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"Newcastle are now unbeaten in the last eight PL games on the road, beating their longest run in that competition from the 2003/04 season (bizarrely, that sequence of seven games were all draws).

Their longest unbeaten away league sequence remains 10 games during the 1907/08 First Division, while the 2009/10 Championship season included a run of nine without defeat away from SJP."

 

As deflating as today was, stats like this still blow my mind. We weren't even achieving away runs like this under KK and Bobby.

 

Even more impressive when you consider we have played spurs, Man Utd and Arsenal in that time as well.

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1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Howay man he's had two windows where we added 3 first-teamers at a time. One of the windows we were going to have to balance things out a bit. Having a go at any of our transfer activity the last 14 months. Give your head a shake man. :lol:

 

 

 

 

Nonsense. You can be pleased with our business in previous transfer windows whilst also criticising the decision to leave us so thin now

 

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47 minutes ago, 54 said:

Ah yes, not replacing a player who had played a grand sum of 0 minutes this season was a "horrendous" decision.

 

I'm not saying we don't need a CM, as we do, but Shelvey has had no impact on us this season, so losing him was no massive deal.

 

The club also clear have a policy of signing their first choice signing, and waiting for that player to become available, and not just filling the gab with someone who may be of lesser quality. We did it with Botman, did it with Gordon, and to a lesser extend did it with Isak.

 

It's a policy that has very much worked thus far and served us well.

 

It's a dreadfully poor decision to leave us so short. Maybe we need to stop waiting for our first choice to become available when we're running our players into the ground week in week out and actually have a decent squad?

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Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

Don;t think there is anything wrong in thinking that we should have probably tried harder to hold on to Shelvey this last window.

 

It was fine to let Shelvey go, it was not bringing in anyone which is the problem

 

Similar to Wood. Obviously we got Gordon but today we had one off the pace striker and nothing else

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Shelvey would have played a fair amount this season if he wasn't injured imo. Losing him without a replacement was poor business. 

 

People were buzzing we had his wages off the books. I've just never got that way if thinking from a fans perspective. 

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Personally wouldn't consider criticising him, I also refused to criticise him last January as I don't think it's warranted.

 

He was backed by the board in Jan 2022 and he more than repaid that, he was backed in the summer and he more than repaid that. He wasn't backed this January but not necessarily in a negative way, think the club are waiting for the summer to do their business and it makes sense to stick to your plan.

 

I'm confident Howe will get us going again and finish the season well.

 

Then it's over to the board to properly back him so he has a squad to cope with hopefully European football.

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