Theregulars Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Is this the same Theregulars from the podcast with Yorkie? Yes; don’t let that put you off. I’m probably just stressed from a long and very difficult week at work, but sometimes I find that people won’t acknowledge facts or reality and it gets to me, because I think it’s a huge problem in our society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I think everyone understood that point 18 hours ago like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Last post on it because clearly it’s just annoying people, but as a general comment I do think people won’t accept any criticism, even where criticism is due. I find it very hard to criticize the manager really. He is still working with a lot of really limited players, most of whom he inherited, and most of whom he is getting much better performances from that you'd normally expect. And even at our very worst we still manage to pick up points on the day. He is doing a phenomenal job. It's almost laughable how good he is doing. It is February and we have lost one game all season, in very dodgy circumstances at Anfield. Regarding signing of players in January, from all the information out there, it appears that they just weren't too enthused about the options that could be had, and felt it better to take a bit of a risk being slightly short, while waiting for the summer. Unlike the fans, they were not looking at the Champions League as extra motivation to go all out in the January window, which they would have had to do to get the players they really wanted it seems. They seem very confident that the long term plans are going to have us right up there regularly anyway and that's fair enough really. It is very likely that we are going to end up in one of the European competitions once the season is all done, and that is a good first step for us for the time being regardless of if it is one of the Europa or even Conference league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 When did we turn into fucking spurs fans. We are 4th for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I deliberately don't come on this forum now after a bad result. The knee jerk entitlement is so bad for the mental health. Not sure what people expect. Destroy every team every week with our robots? This team. This team is challenging top 4 and it the final of a cup. This team filled with so many seemingly average players are absolutely smashing it. Seriously WTF Can't we just enjoy the nice things for 1 season!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: When did we turn into fucking spurs fans. We are 4th for fucks sake. Only some of us have. There's a lot of entitled fans about these days. Don't get me wrong, I've had a pop at things because we definitely have flaws... but some people completely miss the bigger picture. Edited February 12, 2023 by Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Theregulars said: What do you think Anderson has done / has to offer that Shelvey hasn’t / doesn’t? Anderson has done literally nothing of note in a Newcastle shirt. Personally don't think Anderson will ever make it here. Nothing I've seen suggests he's got the toolkit to make it as a top level player. Could be wrong, but either way, we'll be looking for better in a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Just now, arnonel said: I deliberately don't come on this forum now after a bad result. The knee jerk entitlement is so bad for the mental health. Not sure what people expect. Destroy every team every week with our robots? This team. This team is challenging top 4 and it the final of a cup. This team filled with so many seemingly average players are absolutely smashing it. Seriously WTF Can't we just enjoy the nice things for 1 season!? Club buying the Strawberry place land back, new sponsors, probable European football next year. Summer transfer window the futures bright, the futures black and white Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Daughter: Dad, after years of getting F I got an A Dad: why didn't you get an A+? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 As long as its self-contained criticism of the game and performances therein - fine but spilling over into criticising the club, the manager and the players generally, in a season far better than expected is shit fanmanship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Wilson said: Only some of us has. There's a lot of entitled fans about these days. Don't get me wrong, I've had a pop at things because we definitely have flaws... but some people completely miss the bigger picture. It almost feels like the leap from relegation fodder to top 4 contenders has come too soon. Like if we challenged the top 8, then top 6 and perhaps top 4 after that. Doing it a bit more gradually. Without going on a massive unbeaten run and having one of the meanest defences of recent times. Would it have stopped people twisting so much? Some people have short memories and it feels like expectation levels have shifted too quickly. I’m guilty of it. I have to constantly remind myself after a game where we’ve played poorly. Of just how far we’ve come and how our squad is still closer to mid-lower end of the league. As opposed to top 4 quality. Last night for example, was probably the worst we’ve been in the league since Brighton away. Which was what, our 3rd game of the season? We didn’t lose that day and we didn’t lose last night. Only just over a year ago. We’d be getting beat in both of these games, comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I’m shitting it for 2 weeks time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Can you be delighted with the season so far whilst also be critical of how unnecessarily thin our squad is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: Can you be delighted with the season so far whilst also be critical of how unnecessarily thin our squad is? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, joeyt said: Can you be delighted with the season so far whilst also be critical of how unnecessarily thin our squad is? I’m torn on this one. They are obviously working to a longer term plan and are hamstrung by FFP and our wages to turnover ratio. Got so much deadwood to clear out and plenty of players being paid way over their worth. Who contribute fuck all to the team. But like you say, we are spread thin and most the subs are there just to fill the bench, it seems. I’m sure they will have weighed up the pros and cons of overpaying a bit now to try and get 1-2 more in and possibly players who are not top of the list. Versus sticking to their guns and playing the long game waiting for their number one targets. Edited February 12, 2023 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: Can you be delighted with the season so far whilst also be critical of how unnecessarily thin our squad is? Critical of who?! They’re having to rebuild pretty much the whole squad, people weren’t seriously expecting that to be done in 3 transfer windows? Amazed at any form of criticism personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Elliottman said: Critical of who?! They’re having to rebuild pretty much the whole squad, people weren’t seriously expecting that to be done in 3 transfer windows? Amazed at any form of criticism personally. Whoever decided to leave us with 4 centre mids for the rest of the season? Willock hamstrung, Joelinton on the verge of 2 games out, Bruno serving a suspension and Longstaff. They've all played pretty much every game this season, this was bound to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I personally don’t think Eddie ‘greenlit’ the Shelvey sale. At least not in the traditional sense. I think the club said to Eddie we want to let Shelvey go because of xyz and Eddie eventually said ‘ok’. Myself sometimes I’m asked if a team member can move and I have full power to say no. Sometimes I’m more told than asked, I accept and tow the company line because it fits a long-term vision even though it makes the short term targets more difficult. It’s a world of difference. There’s no way Eddie wanted to sell Shelvey and not sign a midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Infatuation Junkie said: I’m shitting it for 2 weeks time. Weirdly, I’m not. Don’t want to appear small time and like I’m just happy for a day out at Wembley. But it’s been so long since we’ve been close to a trophy. Somehow the pressure feels less and not more, to me. I don’t think we’ll beat Man U. But it’s a final. So fuck knows! It is just nice to be competing at the right end of the table and in a cup competition again. I think if we had got to a final under Ashley. I’d be more nervous, as it would feel like a fluke. But whilst it might be a bit naive and overly optimistic. I’d expect us to be challenging a bit more in the future and for this to not just be a one off deal for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: Whoever decided to leave us with 4 centre mids for the rest of the season? Willock hamstrung, Joelinton on the verge of 2 games out, Bruno serving a suspension and Longstaff. They've all played pretty much every game this season, this was bound to happen. No football manager would willingly have their squad in this position. FSG have had criticism for doing the same thing at Liverpool. When they didn’t get Touchameni they didn’t get any class CM. THe fans are saying they can’t let seasons go by waiting for the right players every time when they have urgent needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 You can criticise the people for not trying to capitalise on opportunities and making weaknesses weaker. Overall absolutely everyone has done a stellar job. No doubting that. We are on an upward trajectory. The best owners and managers can make mistakes, miss opportunities and score own goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) It used to be a given and expected that sides would hit a tricky patch during a season and have to ride it out. Even title winning sides in times that weren't as liable for dominance as this. Who are we that we shouldn't be allowed to experience that at this point? Keegan's sides did, Fergie's sides did (nearly let Blackburn in, did let Arsenal in), Blackburn themselves did, Arsenal might be now. Were having a great season, were going places, in the grand scheme of things its not much to have to suffer. 19 minutes ago, joeyt said: Can you be delighted with the season so far whilst also be critical of how unnecessarily thin our squad is? None us know if it was unnecessary. Shifting some of our fringe players appeared to be a gift horse we cant look in the mouth prior to Jan. Are we not basically one centre-midfielder away from everyone being placated? Which they tried to sort by all accounts. Point it out maybe but wouldn't go as far as criticising in the grand scheme of things Edited February 12, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 We’ve basically put in one bad performance in living memory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Arsenal have 1 point in 2 games. Man City got beat last week. Tottenham got stuffed off Leicester. Man Utd were 2-0 down at home to Leeds the other day. Chelsea and Liverpool are so far down the league we can't even see them. Our biggest issue is that we've lost a spark in attack and we find it impossible to lose games. The spark will return soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 We are 14th for XG over the last 6 btw. This isn’t a one-off. You build a squad because you expect injuries, form issues, rotation, suspensions and want different tools in attack. No 4-3-3 manager wants to have 4 central midfielders in the squad. You want 6 capable of playing in midfield. Going with 4 is a clear risk. If you can’t see that…. I just don’t know what to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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