Eddie Howe

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Ben said:

He's overtaking Rafa for me and he has Keegan and Robson in his sights 

 

For me at least, he went past Rafa a long time ago and I was a big fan.

[wormy]

Yup I still love Rafa but he's long surpassed him for me.

 

I honestly think if this season is a success including getting us out of this CL group it would put him above Sir Bobby for me, too.

 

Will probably take a trophy for me to start putting him above KK. 

[andycap]

Glad he's got us playing some great stuff again. After the Milan match I was worrying like a right fanny ?. But always wanted howe to stay and now he's proving me wrong again. Well done players and staff on there hard work. 

[Elliottman]

Rafa and Howe represented/stood for different times. Rafa was adored because of what he achieved with a minging owner - and stiff up to him in public. He could never have hit the heights Eddie had under Ashley. Rafa will be remembered for bringing hope back, making us feel like a proper club and team again. He had us United. 

 

But Eddie has genuinely been world class since he came in. Even now I think he’s criminally underrated. What he’s done has been incredible, bordering on unbelievable. We had Schar, Jamal, Burn , Murphy and Longstaff starting today and we looked as though we could compete with the best. He’s an elite coach. 
 

Both Eddie and Rafa will be remembered for a long time but for different reasons. 

[Guest]

What we lack in pure creativity we make up for x1000 with ruthless relentless pretty much since the Cup Final defeat. So good. 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by Optimistic Nut

[MrRaspberryJam]

41 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Rafa and Howe represented/stood for different times. Rafa was adored because of what he achieved with a minging owner - and stiff up to him in public. He could never have hit the heights Eddie had under Ashley. Rafa will be remembered for bringing hope back, making us feel like a proper club and team again. He had us United. 

 

But Eddie has genuinely been world class since he came in. Even now I think he’s criminally underrated. What he’s done has been incredible, bordering on unbelievable. We had Schar, Jamal, Burn , Murphy and Longstaff starting today and we looked as though we could compete with the best. He’s an elite coach. 
 

Both Eddie and Rafa will be remembered for a long time but for different reasons. 

Genuinely don’t think Benitez will be remembered for a long time tbh.

[Elliottman]

6 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

Genuinely don’t think Benitez will be remembered for a long time tbh.

Depends on how you remember that era I guess. I’d had a season ticket throughout the Ashley era (and before) and absolutely detested most of it. Rafa , for me, brought back a bit of passion and hope, he was a class act, we ended up playing some good football. For me, I’ll always remember that era without a doubt.

 

This period under Eddie is obviously different. 

[Andy]

48 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Rafa and Howe represented/stood for different times. Rafa was adored because of what he achieved with a minging owner - and stiff up to him in public. He could never have hit the heights Eddie had under Ashley. Rafa will be remembered for bringing hope back, making us feel like a proper club and team again. He had us United. 

 

But Eddie has genuinely been world class since he came in. Even now I think he’s criminally underrated. What he’s done has been incredible, bordering on unbelievable. We had Schar, Jamal, Burn , Murphy and Longstaff starting today and we looked as though we could compete with the best. He’s an elite coach. 
 

Both Eddie and Rafa will be remembered for a long time but for different reasons. 

 

Yeah. I think as a fanbase we have a tendency to slightly overrate Rafa as a coach/tactician. He galvanized the club and gave us a resoluteness on the pitch, but I think the love most of us feel for him probably comes from what he represented - someone who was delivering results in spite of Ashley, rather than being a croney for him. 

 

Howe is on a different level for me. I don't believe Rafa could have done anywhere close to the job he's done - I don't think many managers could have. Truly an incredible job he's done. 

[jack j]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

He's overtaking Rafa for me and he has Keegan and Robson in his sights 

Aye hes long past rafa for me

I've probably got him above SBR now..

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Ben said:

He's overtaking Rafa for me and he has Keegan and Robson in his sights 

He overtook Rafa last season. 

[MrRaspberryJam]

3 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Depends on how you remember that era I guess. I’d had a season ticket throughout the Ashley era (and before) and absolutely detested most of it. Rafa , for me, brought back a bit of passion and hope, he was a class act, we ended up playing some good football. For me, I’ll always remember that era without a doubt.

 

This period under Eddie is obviously different. 

I remember Benitez’s time here with basically the same fondness. But just hard to imagine us looking back on Benitez’s time here for many years to come because ultimately he didn’t achieve anything special. (Please note: that is NOT a dig at Benitez, he did well for us under his circumstances. But managers get remembered for the right reasons for doing something special imo)

[Whitley mag]

He’s arguably surpassed even Keegan at this point considering how much stronger the PL is these days.

 

Nothing to stop him becoming one of the greatest at this club, just need to break that trophy duck which is coming.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by Whitley mag

[Joelinton7]

He’s going into our history books isn’t he. Keegan, Robson, Harvey, Howe. 

[Guest]

If he gets top 5 he slots in between Keegan and Bobby for me. 

[54]

One thing that's becoming very evident is that we're set up in a way that means we're not reliant on one scorer, this season already:

 

Aston Villa (5-1): 4 different scorers

Sheffield United (8-0): 8 different scorers

Burnley (2-0): 2 different scorers

PSG (4-1): 4 different scorers

Crystal Palace (4-0): 4 different scorers

[Chris_R]

Keegan still well ahead for me.

 

There's other factors of course, but just in terms of performance he saved us from relegation (and probable oblivion), won the First Division title, then finished 3rd in his first PL season, then 6th and 2nd with a genuine title challenge. 

 

Howe's got one save from relegation and one 4th place. It's not yet close, but I do adore him.

 

I'd probably have Howe above SBR though, and definitely ahead of Benitez who I'll also always love and appreciate.

[Ben]

2 hours ago, andycap said:

Glad he's got us playing some great stuff again. After the Milan match I was worrying like a right fanny ?. But always wanted howe to stay and now he's proving me wrong again. Well done players and staff on there hard work. 

I'll join you in the worrying like a fanny group.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Do we have the new Clough and Taylor in our hands?

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by Vinny Green Balls

[Whitley mag]

43 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Keegan still well ahead for me.

 

There's other factors of course, but just in terms of performance he saved us from relegation (and probable oblivion), won the First Division title, then finished 3rd in his first PL season, then 6th and 2nd with a genuine title challenge. 

 

Howe's got one save from relegation and one 4th place. It's not yet close, but I do adore him.

 

I'd probably have Howe above SBR though, and definitely ahead of Benitez who I'll also always love and appreciate.

Don’t forget a Cup Final and 2 cracking results in Europes top competition.

 

I love the Messiah to this day, but think Howe’s showing signs of real managerial brilliance that could finally land us a trophy.

[GideonShandy]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Do we have the new Clough and Taylor in our hands?

 

 

 

Hard to imagine two more different personalities than Clough and Eddie.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, GideonShandy said:

Hard to imagine two more different personalities than Clough and Eddie.

Of course but I mean the manager and assistant partnership.

[Jonas]

Can't forget either that players that were being run ragged by Southend and Tranmere under Ossie held their own at the top of the PL under Keegan - Pav, Elliott, Watson, Clark, Howey. The latter of whom was converted from a generic middling centre-forward even by the then standards into an England international level centre-half.

There's been the odd player that certain managers turned around  but only KK and Eddie to this extent.

 

 

Edited October 21, 2023 by Jonas

[STM]

I think Howe is a much more rounded manager than Keegan but in fairness to Keegan he lived in a different era.

 

Keegan was old school, put together an 11 like Fergie, gave them motivation and let them crack on.

 

I suspect Howe would make Keegan look rather silly when it came to a conversation on tactics, psychology, diet, patterns of play etc, but then he would make quite a lot of current managers look silly in that regard.

[54]

I saw James Alcott say on his podcast the other day that he doesn't think Keegan would survive in the modern game as he's too emotional and would be very reactionary in the social media world we now live in. 

 

I think I kind of agree to an extent, though I think most managers from the 90s and early 2000's would be eaten alive today, just due to the tactical nature of football these days.

[Kid Icarus]

Today I caught myself when I was midway through the following sentence to my lass's dad: "we really should be looking to beat Dortmund at home"

 

I then just started laughing at 1) being able to say that at all and 2) it being a reasonable, not insane opinion.

 

Being in that position is down to Edward more than anything. Yes, the takeover and signings have been transformative, but we all know who it's mostly down to.