jack j Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 hours ago, Ellis H said: Howe needs to learn how to manage 2 games a week A draw against one of the best in the world followed by a win away against one of the sky 6 probably isnt the best time to use this point against him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The best and most successful manager we’ve had, but needs replaced by somebody that the doubters can’t even name. The joys of a football forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 56 minutes ago, jack j said: A draw against one of the best in the world followed by a win away against one of the sky 6 probably isnt the best time to use this point against him like pep? Slot? etc who have bigger squad oh dear! Don't let any other club have howe ffs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TRC Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, jack j said: A draw against one of the best in the world followed by a win away against one of the sky 6 probably isnt the best time to use this point against him Yeah, I’ve been critical of him in the past but he seems to be learning how do to this. Another European stint next season would be more experience too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Think with 3 cup completions was just too many games this season. Hoping now some of that eases off a bit we see how the team can play. Think with our squad compared to others we can maybe do well in the league and one cup competition, but difficult to compete across them all. Champions league schedule brutal in early phases along with league cup/FA cup and relentless league schedule has made it difficult. Hopefully he's learned a lot and if not in Europe next season and with some new players may see completely different outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 29 minutes ago, nufc4eva said: Think with 3 cup completions was just too many games this season. Hoping now some of that eases off a bit we see how the team can play. Think with our squad compared to others we can maybe do well in the league and one cup competition, but difficult to compete across them all. Champions league schedule brutal in early phases along with league cup/FA cup and relentless league schedule has made it difficult. Hopefully he's learned a lot and if not in Europe next season and with some new players may see completely different outcome. If we qualify for Europe again next season the domestic cups in the early rounds must be deprioritised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ellis H Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 hours ago, jack j said: A draw against one of the best in the world followed by a win away against one of the sky 6 probably isnt the best time to use this point against him We were 12th going into this game. It's an obvious problem he himself has acknowledged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Looking at a lot of these managers in the premier league how many would you actually swap for Howe? Feel pretty fortunate to have him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, black_n_white said: Looking at a lot of these managers in the premier league how many would you actually swap for Howe? Feel pretty fortunate to have him. None. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 How many teams in the league have overperformed so far this season? Perhaps Brentford and Everton, plus Sunderland and Leeds. So far. Quite a few have underperfomed in the league especially Liverpool, Chelsea, us, Spurs, Forest and West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, black_n_white said: Looking at a lot of these managers in the premier league how many would you actually swap for Howe? Feel pretty fortunate to have him. At the minute, and since he arrived....I wouldn't swap any manager for him full stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Ellis H said: We were 12th going into this game. It's an obvious problem he himself has acknowledged. And we’re ninth after it. So what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 50 minutes ago, cubaricho said: And we’re ninth after it. So what? The conversation was about the pros and cons of being in a lesser European competition. I offered a pro and now wish I hadn't bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alreetworked Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The 'Howe needs to learn how to manage two games a week' is such nonsense like. We've went deep in the cups every season he's had here. Spurs is in a relegation battle with CL, Forest is in the same with a weaker comp and we're doing better than Palace and Brighton also in weaker comps. We also reached a semi final and r16 with tough draws too in the domestic cup comps. He's managed this off the back of a poor transfer window which has nothing to do with managing game weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, black_n_white said: Looking at a lot of these managers in the premier league how many would you actually swap for Howe? Feel pretty fortunate to have him. A lot of them are weirdos, I’m happy we have a relatively normal bloke in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) Acrual reasons why any europe > no europe: 1. Better pulling power on transfers 2. Improve coefficient for better seeding 3. Greater income from prize money, sponsorships, etc... As fans, it's not exactly exciting or glamorous playing the 4th placed team in the Azerbaijan first division, but who turns their nose up at the chance of any European silverware, beggars, choosers and all that. Edit: I wouldn't swap Howe for any manager in any league Edited March 15 by Mattoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 hours ago, nufc4eva said: Think with 3 cup completions was just too many games this season. Hoping now some of that eases off a bit we see how the team can play. Think with our squad compared to others we can maybe do well in the league and one cup competition, but difficult to compete across them all. Champions league schedule brutal in early phases along with league cup/FA cup and relentless league schedule has made it difficult. Hopefully he's learned a lot and if not in Europe next season and with some new players may see completely different outcome. I do wonder how much our team selections in the early rounds of the league cup were influenced by us being the holders. Hopefully next season we'll see a little more pragmatism and take the early rounds of the cups as a chance to give some of the youngsters some game time and rest a few of the purples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) He can stay for life as far as I'm concerned, but we have to straighten the player recruitment out, that summer mustn't be repeated. Edited March 16 by Collage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Keeping Wyn Davies from spouting his nonsense for at least another week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 11 hours ago, Mattoon said: Acrual reasons why any europe > no europe: 1. Better pulling power on transfers 2. Improve coefficient for better seeding 3. Greater income from prize money, sponsorships, etc... As fans, it's not exactly exciting or glamorous playing the 4th placed team in the Azerbaijan first division, but who turns their nose up at the chance of any European silverware, beggars, choosers and all that. Edit: I wouldn't swap Howe for any manager in any league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Not wanting Europa league is madness. We’d be favourites to win it and it gets you in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 3 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Not wanting Europa league is madness. We’d be favourites to win it and it gets you in the CL. And as it's not as strong as the champions league you can rotate a bit more and potentially give some young fringe players some game time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Howe was really a one game a week, preferred starting eleven, kind of manager but just abut every manager in the PL would prefer that given the option. We've become a strong cup side on three fronts and along with the demands and pressure of of now needing to succeed in the PL, rather than just exist, we are to some extent victims of our own success, especially against the backdrop of a confused close season and long injury list. I think he has really developed this season as a two games per week, squad rotational manager and that is improvement on top of what was already being a brilliant. top rate manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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