Mountain Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Will The Premier League take note of this and realise their snide rules are making the English clubs a laughing stock and the national team too exausted to fight the final battle? Probably not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 The club need to be bang fucking at it this summer window, mind. Decisive moves for players early so if we are gazumped, we can move down the list and get the best edition of what we want each time. I can't be arsed with another season where we look crap until about January/February because we haven't bedded in all the late/unfit arrivals and they basically owe it to Eddie for leaving him picking up the pieces last summer. I don't hold him 100% blameless with who was signed, but having to lay the train tracks down whilst the thing was moving in terms of evolving us into a post-rat team whilst fighting on four fronts was as much a chore to watch as I'm sure it was for him to work through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 16 minutes ago, Pilko said: The club need to be bang fucking at it this summer window, mind. Decisive moves for players early so if we are gazumped, we can move down the list and get the best edition of what we want each time. I can't be arsed with another season where we look crap until about January/February because we haven't bedded in all the late/unfit arrivals and they basically owe it to Eddie for leaving him picking up the pieces last summer. I don't hold him 100% blameless with who was signed, but having to lay the train tracks down whilst the thing was moving in terms of evolving us into a post-rat team whilst fighting on four fronts was as much a chore to watch as I'm sure it was for him to work through. Eddie to his part has to accept there are players in this squad that need to be let go now - quite a few are in the leadership group -,time to move on from them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Aye, none of this "there was a World Cup on, nobody buys players during a World Cup" bollocks. It'll be 3 years this summer since we've had a transfer window that hasn't been either a massive fuck up or a complete non-event. We've stood still for far too long for a club that wants to be the best in the world in 4 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: It is like. There was always a good chance we run out of legs and belief playing like that. Could’ve threw in the white flag earlier too Agreed. It’s always unpopular on here when you criticise Eddie but when you ship 7 goals going toe to toe with one of the best teams in Europe (who, player for player are better than us), on their turf, you’ve played into their hands. After half time they controlled the ball, kept it, drew us in and exploited the absolute chasm we leave behind our midfield, and our knackered legs and minds. It was a thorough, and professionally orchestrated demolition by a team that understands controlling the ball is key to winning big games and competitions. And when you can’t control the ball because the opposition is superior, keep it tight and use your pace on the counter. We were always likely to lose that fixture but shipping 7 goals in any top-level game is embarrassing and points to a poor gameplan, not a poorly executed one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 27 minutes ago, Ellis H said: Aye, none of this "there was a World Cup on, nobody buys players during a World Cup" bollocks. It'll be 3 years this summer since we've had a transfer window that hasn't been either a massive fuck up or a complete non-event. We've stood still for far too long for a club that wants to be the best in the world in 4 years time. But what if that is true, what if activity during the World Cup is next to nothing? Why expect us to not be impacted just because we need to have a good transfer window? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Pilko said: The club need to be bang fucking at it this summer window, mind. Decisive moves for players early so if we are gazumped, we can move down the list and get the best edition of what we want each time. I can't be arsed with another season where we look crap until about January/February because we haven't bedded in all the late/unfit arrivals and they basically owe it to Eddie for leaving him picking up the pieces last summer. I don't hold him 100% blameless with who was signed, but having to lay the train tracks down whilst the thing was moving in terms of evolving us into a post-rat team whilst fighting on four fronts was as much a chore to watch as I'm sure it was for him to work through. Didnt we kind of do that last summer only to be repeatedly gazumped ? Edited March 19 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 7 minutes ago, madras said: Didnt we kind of do that last summer only to be repeatedly gazumped ? No. We fucked up big time by saying Isak was not for sale and then selling him when it was too late. We should of either have sold him right away or not at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: But what if that is true, what if activity during the World Cup is next to nothing? Why expect us to not be impacted just because we need to have a good transfer window? The world cup ends on the 19th July which will be about a month before the first PL game so we cannot just sit and do nothing for 6 weeks of the window. We did that last season and have hopefully learned a valuable lesson from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, OverThere said: No. We fucked up big time by saying Isak was not for sale and then selling him when it was too late. We should of either have sold him right away or not at all Yet we were in for Ekitike, Pedro, Delap, Sesko before anyone else. Would we have got one of them if we'd bid earlier ? I'm not sure it works like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 48 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Agreed. It’s always unpopular on here when you criticise Eddie but when you ship 7 goals going toe to toe with one of the best teams in Europe (who, player for player are better than us), on their turf, you’ve played into their hands. After half time they controlled the ball, kept it, drew us in and exploited the absolute chasm we leave behind our midfield, and our knackered legs and minds. It was a thorough, and professionally orchestrated demolition by a team that understands controlling the ball is key to winning big games and competitions. And when you can’t control the ball because the opposition is superior, keep it tight and use your pace on the counter. We were always likely to lose that fixture but shipping 7 goals in any top-level game is embarrassing and points to a poor gameplan, not a poorly executed one. Agreed. It was brave but ultimately naive. And waited too long to try and keep the score down. I will say we could’ve been more responsible and still lose 4-5 without laying a glove. But punching yourself out isn’t it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Adrian Durham on Talksport calling for Eddie to hand in his resignation (Link) Sickening levels of delusion and extreme overreactions there. 7-2 is a bastard of a result, but we've still over-achieved in most competitions with what we have in the squad this season, especially with all the mitigating factors. The only one we can't comment on yet will be the final position in the league, but even with that, if we finished mid-table it'd be breaking par all things considered. It's not where we want to be, but it's also not been as straight forward as just blaming everything on a manager who's done more for this club in joy and success than many have seen for several decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 25 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: Adrian Durham on Talksport calling for Eddie to hand in his resignation (Link) Sickening levels of delusion and extreme overreactions there. 7-2 is a bastard of a result, but we've still over-achieved in most competitions with what we have in the squad this season, especially with all the mitigating factors. The only one we can't comment on yet will be the final position in the league, but even with that, if we finished mid-table it'd be breaking par all things considered. It's not where we want to be, but it's also not been as straight forward as just blaming everything on a manager who's done more for this club in joy and success than many have seen for several decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 fucking proud as punch! Give this man a squad asap! for a team that still has players from the ashley era we didn't look like fannys like the cheque book managers have in the cl! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 We have on paper 4 excellent defenders and then Trippier, Schar and Burn as back ups. Yet as a unit together they are verging on being absolutely hopeless, tonight being the perfect illustration. Its been suggested frequently on here that the problem is with the three midfielders in front of them and the space they leave behind them in between the lines. So why will our illustrious leader not buy a specialist defensive midfielder? Too stubborn or too thick? If it's something else it's a mystery to most people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, Armchair Pundit said: Adrian Durham on Talksport calling for Eddie to hand in his resignation (Link) Sickening levels of delusion and extreme overreactions there. 7-2 is a bastard of a result, but we've still over-achieved in most competitions with what we have in the squad this season, especially with all the mitigating factors. The only one we can't comment on yet will be the final position in the league, but even with that, if we finished mid-table it'd be breaking par all things considered. It's not where we want to be, but it's also not been as straight forward as just blaming everything on a manager who's done more for this club in joy and success than many have seen for several decades. How can you suggest a resignation based on one half of football? How reactionary and emotional can you get? I think we'll see a bit of that from some corners today too. For me, its done, we did better than I expected but I am disappointed that we didn't do as well as I thought we could. The fact that this team took it as far as we did before our legs went is proof that there's no man better for the job, rather than the contrary, but then knee perk is what we've come to expect from talksport. This game is filed away in the depths already, we just need to win on Sunday and limp through to the international break, after which I can see us going on a rampage for the last stretch of the season and hopefully we end up somewhere respectable, with some kind of European campaign next season as a reward for what has been a totally tumultuous season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, Magpie Mover said: We have on paper 4 excellent defenders and then Trippier, Schar and Burn as back ups. Yet as a unit together they are verging on being absolutely hopeless, tonight being the perfect illustration. Its been suggested frequently on here that the problem is with the three midfielders in front of them and the space they leave behind them in between the lines. So why will our illustrious leader not buy a specialist defensive midfielder? Too stubborn or too thick? If it's something else it's a mystery to most people. Really? Those are the only two possible answers? You must have assimilated an incredible amount of coaching manuals to be able to pinpoint the only two possible reasons for NUFC’s preferred tactical and positional set ups. It can only be one of two persistent character flaws in the manager. Thank you for doing the hard thinking for us all Mover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) As others have said, we have defenders who are excellent as individuals, some of the best I’ve ever seen at the club, but they’ve been absolutely tragic as a unit. They just can’t keep clean sheets and concede soft goals week after week after week regardless of the quality of the opposition. Games like Chelsea are an outlier in a season of Keystone Cops defending. Howe really needs to sort this out through new signings, better coaches, or tactical shifts to give the defence more protection. When he came here he made a mockery of the “Howe teams can’t defend” reputation with a 22/23 side that had the meanest defence in the league. But that’s history now, we’re absolutely dogshit at the back and the “Howe teams can’t defend” reputation is absolutely justified this season. Edited March 19 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Howe mentioned that JT predominantly works on the defence coaching recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I know no. of games do have a great impact, but apparently, we conceded most goals in 2026 among all the Europe top leagues. Thats brutal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 The World Cup will hinder us signing players as they do tend to wait until afterwards to make moves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 10 minutes ago, duo said: The World Cup will hinder us signing players as they do tend to wait until afterwards to make moves Sign players who aren’t at the World Cup. Problem solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 After this weekend we have a 3 week break. We need one last push this Sunday from Howe and the players. No feeling sorry for ourselves and get into them with intensity from the off. Its pleasing to hear Howe talking about the importance and magnitude of the derby. From memory he didn't seem to fully get this before the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 He absolutely needs to bring in at least one coach. Not a "set piece coach" or some sort of analyst, someone from outside of his circle who can work with the first team day in, day out. He doesn't even need to bin any of his current group, just add to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 (edited) 5 hours ago, Keegans Export said: He absolutely needs to bring in at least one coach. Not a "set piece coach" or some sort of analyst, someone from outside of his circle who can work with the first team day in, day out. He doesn't even need to bin any of his current group, just add to it. I think he should bring in someone just to bring some different ideas, new voice etc. Pep says he changes his for this reason. Edited March 19 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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