ryanegg Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: He's ran his players into the ground and we're paying the consequences of it. Feel like a lot of this was inevitable. Small squad in terms of reliable quality, additional games and expectations, recipe for disaster when 1 or 2 injuries kick in, the more follow chasing the gaps and now we're 14 deep and only the fans can carry us at home. He adjusted training, intensity and frequency, but could this have made it worse? He certainly doesn't rotate enough and can't rest players out of a winning team. It's the first time he's really had this to deal with, I think if he started again, he'd do things differently. But that's what its about, learning. Next season he'll have similar problems, but with hopefully more to pick from, but he needs to trust in rotation, or we're never going to achieve what we're all hoping for. One or two?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Aiston said: Needs to sort out his subs. 10 minutes added on, we've lost the game. Get some tired players off ffs. 2 wins in 11 away games as well, he needs to sort our away form out, it is dreadful. Grow up man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Why on earth would you keep our best players on when the game is lost and we've so many important games coming up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Grow up man. What? Our away form is utter shit and Howe just played knackered players for an extra 10-15 minutes in a game we've lost...he could have saved 3 other players legs. Edited December 7, 2023 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Aiston said: What? Our away form is utter shit and Howe just played knackered players for an extra 10 minutes in a game we've lost...he could have saved 3 other players legs. like it would have made a dot of difference bringing some bairns on whilst we’re getting battered for ten mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Howe’s fault Gordon can’t finish and Trippier can’t pass. Sack him in the morning please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 We play away from home like we are conserving our energy for home games. We need to play with our intensity for as long as we can and try to hang on at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: like it would have made a dot of difference bringing some bairns on whilst we’re getting battered for ten mins Subs don’t make Howe’s world go round, he’s reaching out to a higher ground Edited December 7, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: like it would have made a dot of difference bringing some bairns on whilst we’re getting battered for ten mins It's to rest players at least a little bit....as shown so far this season, we need that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, bobbydazzla said: Subs don’t make Eddie’s world go round, he’s reaching out to a higher ground And some people say him and Tindall are just a big pair of tits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I'm not going to criticise him when he is working with scraps at the minute but the away form does need to improve like. Been poor all season even before the injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Aiston said: What's your point? We've lost the game, take 3 other tired players off. It's insanity not to do it. And bring who on !! Two keepers and toddlers on the bench, what a football manager whopper your are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 yes away from especially vs lower table opponents needs to be beaten more often. if not we wont even make top6 let alone top4. last season we had 8-8-3 away record, only lost to Villa, City, Pool and got wins vs most of the lower table sides and some nice draws away to Arse, MU, Chelsea, Brighton. this season 1-2-4 currently and yet to play some real tough away games: Villa, Pool, Arse, Spurs, MU, Chelsea. our fantastic home record wont be able to balance out the rubbish away form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ben said: And bring who on !! Two keepers and toddlers on the bench, what a football manager whopper your are It doesn't matter who, you dense cunt. The game is lost, why run players even further into the ground. edit: Hall, Dummett...for 2. Edited December 7, 2023 by Aiston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aiston said: It doesn't matter who, you dense cunt. The game is lost, why run players even further into the ground. Howe has worked wonders with the scraps of a squad he has left, we can't improve our situation because of FFP, morons like you demeaning blood from a stone are exactwhat we don't need as a support just now, 4 huge games in 9 days with a skeleton squad, no doubt you will calk gor his head at the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 13/03/2023 at 13:09, Dokko said: Needs to rotate more. The team looks spent. I understand he wants to keep a winning or unbeaten team but I don't see the milage of that when players are hanging. The small pool of quality squad doesn't help, especially when you throw all your eggs in one basket and he's then out for weeks/months (twice that's happened now) but we've got to get fresh legs and minds into the team quicker than we do. Our fullbacks are both liabilities at present and one of them, their quality cannot be questioned, therfore it's got to be fatigue. God help us if we qualify for Europe. Obvious even back then. Needs to rotate more, and his refusal has played a huge part in the injury situation imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombrownnufc3 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Dokko said: Obvious even back then. Needs to rotate more, and his refusal has played a huge part in the injury situation imho. Rotate with who exactly?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Said it previously, but I hope coming out of this period, he rotates a lot more. Only seems comfortable to do it with Isak and Wilson (when both are fit). Clearly we've had some truly freak injuries, but we need to manage fatigue better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ben said: And bring who on !! Two keepers and toddlers on the bench, what a football manager whopper your are You're wrong. The young lads might not be a viable option when we're in the game but at 2-0 down and 10 mins up on the board, just chuck the bodies on and give the lads a breather for Sunday. Making Isak run around for that last ten minutes was absolutely mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Ben said: Howe has worked wonders with the scraps of a squad he has left, we can't improve our situation because of FFP, morons like you demeaning blood from a stone are exactwhat we don't need as a support just now, 4 huge games in 9 days with a skeleton squad, no doubt you will calk gor his head at the end of it. You're just a cunt giving anyone abuse who dares not be 100% positive about absolutely everything. How dare people want improvements where we are not doing well in. The making subs and giving players a rest (especially in a game we've lost and there are 10-15 mins left) would help in our skeleton squad....but nope, cannot criticise that can we. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Pilko said: You're wrong. The young lads might not be a viable option when we're in the game but at 2-0 down and 10 mins up on the board, just chuck the bodies on and give the lads a breather for Sunday. Making Isak run around for that last ten minutes was absolutely mental. Would that really make that much difference though ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dokko said: Obvious even back then. Needs to rotate more, and his refusal has played a huge part in the injury situation imho. I would agree with you if we where getting a load of muscle injuries, but most of ours haven't been: Jacob Murphy - Dislocated Shoulder Harvey Barnes - Broken Foot Dan Burn - Lower Back Stress Fracture Elliot Anderson - Lower Back Stress Fracture Sven Botman - Knee Damage done on International duty Nick Pope - Dislocated Shoulder Willock - Reoccurrence of an injury that happened last season. The only two players who have soft tissue injuries are Targett and Wilson, the later has Hamstring like cheese strings, and the former barely plays. Edited December 7, 2023 by 54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, tombrownnufc3 said: Rotate with who exactly?? Missed the point. Rotate back then we he had choices, now he doesn't and they are dropping like flies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Ben said: Would that really make that much difference though ? It would have gave 3 knackered players a rest in the skeleton squad. What don't you get about that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Ben said: Would that really make that much difference though ? It's ten minutes-worth of post-match fatigue that we could have easily done without. In this world of marginal, percentage gains etc I don't understand why these lads who are clearly fucking shagged were made to play 100+ minutes here when we had bodies available to come on and run about in their place when the game is a busted flush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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