Armchair Pundit Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Looking for positives if it does end up being Howe - he's got experience with working under similar facilities as we currently own, he's got experience of the league, he already knows some of the players. I mean, maybe we've all just got a bit carried away with thinking that money could instantly solve everything and bring in the best non-playing and playing staff. To be honest, there's so much work to be done, our current infrastructure, our club, is in such a mess, we're so behind that it's going to take more time that we'd tricked ourselves into thinking. The new owners aren't Ashley, they've got lots of money and they want to win in the long run, I think some people need to cut them some slack, they're very new to owning a football club and it'll take some learning through mistakes on their part most likely. I think the key is that we concentrate on their long-term vision, this season was always a right off and if next season is as well then so what, some of the games I enjoyed most in recent years were when we were actually winning most games in our attempt to come back up from the championship anyways. We'll get it right, we just need to be patient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Manxst said: Fuck it- get Gerrard. Don’t care if he fucks off to Liverpool in a year or three. By then he’ll have done the job and we can move on to better anyway. Much more of a pull than Howe and I’d like to think has more experience about putting the infrastructure in place, having been there as a player under various world class managers. Has an excellent number 2 aswell who is very highly regarded in coaching circles. Out of the domestic candidates he’s the one I’d go for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Lampard gets the signings in January. So would gerrard tbf. Not sure Howe does. Whoever we get in for DOF will do most of that heavy lifting, to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Lampard gets the signings in January. So would gerrard tbf. Not sure Howe does. With a decent DoF we might and at least the new owners have a bit longer to resolve that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 It's going to be hard to find a manager who doesn't have some sort of failure in their history. Obviously a different level, but Emery also couldn't get Arsenal out of winless streak and by most accounts had totally lost the locker room by the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, hakka said: Or maybe he applied for them all and failed. Or maybe nobody called for him as they thought he wasn't good enough. It's a whataboutery sort of answer as will never know, but it is odd how nobody has gone for him despite some feeling he is "solid and good" PL manager. What I’m saying is, we don’t know that nobody has ‘gone for him’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Some are overestimating our squad or not looking at how precarious our position is. We would have been fine with Emery or someone of similar stature but I think we will struggle massively with Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: Whoever we get in for DOF will do most of that heavy lifting, to be honest. I actually think Howe will come across well when he meets the players, it’s just that his name won’t attract them. But hopefully that’s a minor setback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: Whoever we get in for DOF will do most of that heavy lifting, to be honest. If we get one, we don’t actually know this is the route we are taking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I see Norwich might want Howe too. Oh the panic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Howe was in Liverpool today maybe Everton want him as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Aye, injuries is a classic manager excuse so I would have to see it properly to judge it I think. You realize one bad season doesn't make a bad manager right? Klopp left Dortmund when they where bottom. Guardiola finished 4th and trophy-less in his first season at Man City. Pochetino got sacked at Spurs with them in the bottom half. Hell Rafa failed in China. Managers are allowed the odd blotch on there CV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Howe was in Liverpool today maybe Everton want him as well Everton fan I think, for whatever reason. Maybe family or something there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Howe to Everton. Rafa to us. The circle is complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Shearergol said: I see Norwich might want Howe too. Oh the panic. That's the only thing that bothers me to some degree about Howe, he seems to be a 'decent' manager that also-ran teams consider. He's not really a name that generates interest from clubs that are looking at mid-table upwards... though I guess, funds aside, we're probably firmly in the 'also-ran' clutch of teams with how badly we've been neglected for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I'm that worn out by it all as long as it's announced tomorrow I'd take Howe. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Yeah, he is an Everton fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacred Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Hallo Schade, dass Favre für Sie kein Thema mehr ist. Auch wenn er keine Erfahrung in der Premier League hat, ist er taktisch einer der Besten. Der Fußball, den er spielen lässt, ist eine starke Defensive mit schnellem Spiel nach vorne. In Dortmund hatte die Abwehr Probleme, es gab viele individuelle Fehler von Spielern während des Spiels. Das Spiel nach vorne war sehr gut mit vielen Toren. Um auf den Punkt zu kommen, braucht favre die richtigen Spieler für sein Spielsystem und er hatte sie in Dortmund nicht in der Defensive. Ich denke, er könnte in Newcastle einen Unterschied machen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Is Lampard certainly out of the running? Not one single person on here can answer that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, hakka said: And you can say that and that's fine, my point is after a year and plenty of other PL positions being available and him not landing any, that is odd for such a solid and good PL manager. He's come out and publicly stated he's not just going to jump into a random job, it has to be the right fit for him, and for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, sacred said: Hallo Schade, dass Favre für Sie kein Thema mehr ist. Auch wenn er keine Erfahrung in der Premier League hat, ist er taktisch einer der Besten. Der Fußball, den er spielen lässt, ist eine starke Defensive mit schnellem Spiel nach vorne. In Dortmund hatte die Abwehr Probleme, es gab viele individuelle Fehler von Spielern während des Spiels. Das Spiel nach vorne war sehr gut mit vielen Toren. Um auf den Punkt zu kommen, braucht favre die richtigen Spieler für sein Spielsystem und er hatte sie in Dortmund nicht in der Defensive. Ich denke, er könnte in Newcastle einen Unterschied machen. alreet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, sacred said: Hallo Schade, dass Favre für Sie kein Thema mehr ist. Auch wenn er keine Erfahrung in der Premier League hat, ist er taktisch einer der Besten. Der Fußball, den er spielen lässt, ist eine starke Defensive mit schnellem Spiel nach vorne. In Dortmund hatte die Abwehr Probleme, es gab viele individuelle Fehler von Spielern während des Spiels. Das Spiel nach vorne war sehr gut mit vielen Toren. Um auf den Punkt zu kommen, braucht favre die richtigen Spieler für sein Spielsystem und er hatte sie in Dortmund nicht in der Defensive. Ich denke, er könnte in Newcastle einen Unterschied machen. Hello, it's a shame that Favre is no longer an issue for you. Even if he has no experience in the Premier League, tactically he is one of the best. The football he lets play is a strong defense with fast play forward. In Dortmund the defense had problems, there were many individual mistakes made by players during the game. The game up front was very good with a lot of goals. To get to the point, favre needs the right players for his game system and he didn't have them on the defensive in Dortmund. I think he could make a difference in Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Fucking Lennon on Sky: “they need someone to come in and roll their sleeves up…” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 In Italy or Germany, one of the moderately sized clubs would have taken a punt on a coach like Howe. It happens quite regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Manxst said: Fucking Lennon on Sky: “they need someone to come in and roll their sleeves up…” Run around the field Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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