Minhosa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Not sure that's true tbh. We survived with sheer luck two seasons ago, loads of late goals from defenders, then last season we looked doomed until Willock arrived and started scoring for fun. This season we had 3 points from 7 games and the park the bus tactics had been rumbled. There's no way we were surviving playing that way either. Agreed but don't forget they were coached by an utter buffoon. They all looked competent under Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, kisearch said: I know you are and that's what I'm saying is surely deliberate ignorance. It doesn't make any sense to do that, especially this early. People did the same with Rafa though so if they did it to him they're definitely gonna do it to Howe. Are you Kid Icarus btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: One post from a well known unhinged poster. Most of the criticism is totally fair and not even that bad 1 win in 9 and knocked out the cup by a league 1 side. He'd be getting a far rougher ride at quite a few other clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Let's see what we're like after 5 or 6 signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 If Rafa becomes available, pressure on Howe grows very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Weird comment when we’ve seen many of the same players improved under Rafa. It’s glaringly obvious you can get more from this group. That was 3 years ago. Would they be better defending for their lives? Not for most of this season they haven't, we were shipping goals despite parking the bus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 The Murphy sub was odd and I don't see what he sees in Longstaff, but we're dogshit and have been since long before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, ManDoon said: One post from a well known unhinged poster. Most of the criticism is totally fair and not even that bad It's been a few people, but they are generally the loudest, which makes it seem worse than it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: It's been a few people, but they are generally the loudest, which makes it seem worse than it is. What, asking for him to be sacked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Baffling to take murphy off and can’t see any reason at all to put Ritchie anywhere near the pitch he is dog shit , Almirón did absolutely nothing but make him self dizzy and asm is a over hyped show pony with zero intelligence, add a new keeper for next season too too many errors slipping in now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: One post from a well known unhinged poster. Most of the criticism is totally fair and not even that bad Not sure like, I'm seeing a fair bit of 'I'm not saying we should get divorced, but...' sort of energy like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, TRon said: That was 3 years ago. Would they be better defending for their lives? Not for most of this season they haven't, we were shipping goals despite parking the bus. What are you talking about? The point is, Howe could (and should) be getting more from this group of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Minhosa said: What, asking for him to be sacked? At least seeming to imply it. But I am agreeing that it's not the vast majority in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Are you Kid Icarus btw? I am yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I really don't want to, but I can see myself losing faith in him if we fail to beat Watford. We've had a lot of winnable games during his short tenure and we've still only won once. It's not been good enough. He can't keep losing games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I don’t want him sacked like, but the insinuation of an ‘overreaction’ from fans to the result seems odd. It’s a shocking day for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Not wanting him as manager initially because I thought he's completely the wrong man for the job at heart is being pedantic apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elephant said: In all fairness, if Bruce managed to keep this team with these players in Premier League last season, then we seriously need to start asking more from Howe. He is nice bloke and says good things, but can’t help thinking what these results had been with Emery. Bruce had this team winless and on trajectory to be comfortably one of the worst premier league teams of all time. That's what Howe inherited, not the team that finished last season. The names might be the same, but the rot is the problem. Momentum is a hard thing to turn around in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, kisearch said: I am yeah. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: This is the body language debacle all over again You'll see it if you have a read back through the last few pages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 End of the day win next weekend and this all forgot about, after the Watford game will be time to ask questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy said: Bruce had this team winless and on trajectory to be comfortably one of the worst premier league teams of all time. That's what Howe inherited, not the team that finished last season. The names might be the same, but the rot is the problem. Momentum is a hard thing to turn around in football. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Menace said: Not wanting him as manager initially because I thought he's completely the wrong man for the job at heart is being pedantic apparently You apparently need a brushing up on what pedantic means then, dude. You were being pedantic about pointing out the offhand 560 page comment, knowing full well what I meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, neesy111 said: 1 win in 9 and knocked out the cup by a league 1 side. He'd be getting a far rougher ride at quite a few other clubs. its hardly unreasonable to give him some criticism. It doesn't mean i want him sacked though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Also agree with this but if I was playing devils advocate Bruce would constantly say “I can’t change the style of play overnight l!!11” I think the issue there was that was that he was trying to change a style of play that was effective to begin with, without understanding it. It just came across as tone deaf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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