Eddie Howe

[olliemort]

His subs were awful!  I dont rate murphy highly but he was by far our biggest threat and bringing on manquillo made no sense.

He is partly to blame but the players were a disgrace.

It should not be over looked that since he came in we look a far better side and much more enjoyable to watch, he needs time and his own players in

 

[Collage]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Emery bottled it, that would definitely have been reflected in his players. He couldn't even make his mind up if he wanted to be here or not. 

My post wasn’t specifically about Emery. I’m not bothered about not getting him. Was just talking about different types of managers. For the record, I want Howe to stay, no question. But I fear relegation.

[Pilko]

23 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

so do you think he should be given time now, or a new manager brought in?

 

You probably can't get rid already but I worry at the idea of spending £100m+ on players he wants. I'm not sure, I don't have the answers, but I'm fairly sure the answer isn't Howe.

[TRon]

On the one hand I'm pissed off that he didn't give some younger players a chance, on the other, I'm absolutely raging that our best players couldn't match Cambridge. I mean, how much coaching do you need to beat a team in the bottom of the 3rd division?

 

 

[Pilko]

Just now, ManDoon said:

Pilko is totally entitled to his opinion we shouldn’t be jumping down people’s throats for it imo. 

 

Appreciate it. I know others won't agree but in my own defence I've been consistent in my views since Howe got the gig.

[Dr Venkman]

4 hours ago, Dublin1974 said:

Hi.first post, had  big worries about  howe, I think we are in bigger  trouble than we think , he's absolutely  lifeless on the touchline, 

[Armchair Pundit]

It worries me too that Howe didn't berate the players and instead chose to go with positives being taken, can only assume the morale at the club is wafer thin and he's not wanting to rock the boat too much with the impending new signings coming in and relegation battle ahead.

[relámpago blanco]

6 minutes ago, Pilko said:

 

You probably can't get rid already but I worry at the idea of spending £100m+ on players he wants. I'm not sure, I don't have the answers, but I'm fairly sure the answer isn't Howe.

I agree to an extent but Botman, Carlos, Gini I think they are players that aren't Howe signings per se.  I think Eddie deserves some time.  Its a horribly unbalanced squad.

[HaydnNUFC]

7 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said:

It worries me too that Howe didn't berate the players and instead chose to go with positives being taken, can only assume the morale at the club is wafer thin and he's not wanting to rock the boat too much with the impending new signings coming in and relegation battle ahead.

 

He'll be doing that in private, he'll always defend his players in front of the press.

[Armchair Pundit]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

He'll be doing that in private, he'll always defend his players in front of the press.

 

Hope that's the case, it's doesn't help the fans though I suppose.

[Rocker]

22 minutes ago, Pilko said:

 

You probably can't get rid already but I worry at the idea of spending £100m+ on players he wants. I'm not sure, I don't have the answers, but I'm fairly sure the answer isn't Howe.

 

[Newcastle Fan]

Absolute garbage from him and the team today, i know our players are shit but he really embarrassed both himself and the club with that performance and his next steps are really important to determine what sort of person he is and how he can dig himself and the team out of this.

 

a few of our more senior players should not even considered going forward, maybe its time to give the likes of Anderson more chances at least they might have some hunger in them.

[Pilko]

2 minutes ago, Rocker said:

 

 

Explain why

[ExiledGeordie]

15 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said:

 

Hope that's the case, it's doesn't help the fans though I suppose.

Few managers berate players in public but sure as hell throw a few fvcks into them behind closed doors 

[HWTL]

Don't think there was anything wrong with the starting line up and not really that many other options, very similar to the team against man u, don't think Saint can play uptop and maybe the subs weren't great but the players have to take responsibility. I still think a few more quality additions will make the world of difference. Too many bang average players in this team.

[Kanji]

Not sure how many of you manage people but you’re never going to get a response from low on confidence people by berating them in public to further dent their confidence. 
 

It’s well documented he handles matters like these behind closed doors where they should happen. 

[gjohnson]

Playing ASM up front was an obvious mistake immediately. It's the kind of thing  FM experts try on the PC and big it up as a good idea, ignoring the reality that ASM doesn't have the awareness or shooting ability to be the main striker

[Fantail Breeze]

3 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Not sure how many of you manage people but you’re never going to get a response from low on confidence people by berating them in public to further dent their confidence. 
 

It’s well documented he handles matters like these behind closed doors where they should happen. 

 

It’s not berating players in public I expected to see. But I certainly didn’t expect to see him try and tell us we played well after losing at home to a team fighting relegation in League One.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, gjohnson said:

Playing ASM up front was an obvious mistake immediately. It's the kind of thing  FM experts try on the PC and big it up as a good idea, ignoring the reality that ASM doesn't have the awareness or shooting ability to be the main striker

While I agree, it seems there wasn’t really any other option. 

[madras]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

While I agree, it seems there wasn’t really any other option. 

I'd play Gayle up front before ASM. At least he's got it out of his system before it really costs us.

[Kanji]

1 hour ago, KaKa said:

 

It's pretty clear that this is ultimately the issue.

 

The new owners ultimately decided to go with a manager whose philosophy is to play attacking football, and they felt that with the signings in January it would ultimately see the teams fortunes turn around, and the fans would appreciate that style more. I still think that will indeed ultimately be the case too.

 

The alternative would have been to go for a more defensive minded manager to try and grind out results and keep the team up, but then do you just stick with that longer term after? And if they had gone that route would you then back such a manager with players for that style in January if that's not how you ultimately want the side to play going forward?

 

If they really believe in Howe's philosophy and overall approach then just get him in and let him start building this thing with them from the ground up. If we are able to get players in that then gel better with the manager and keep us up then great, and if not, if we do end up going down for a year then so be it, and we'll just have to re-start from there.

I don’t want to keep saying this but the Rafa approach worked on those guys at that specific time only and we had a far younger squad overall. We also had a better center midfield too. We’re now one of the oldest teams relying on mostly the same players who’ve aged, digressed in talent/form, have suffered major injuries and also have been coached by Bruce for many seasons. 
 

Hiring a defensive manager could have easily yielded the same stuff. 
 

I’m still buzzing my mind off at this new version of NUFC, I also believe in Howe and his philosophy and these owners.
 

Quite honest - I’m disappointed and frustrated with the negligence of the past several years and the ultimate task at hand. I’m angered by the response of these players who didn’t get the result and I’m upset Howe hasn’t done better today and other matches….but todays loss does not define the season. Get more signings in this week and beat watford. 

[Ashley17]

It's a squad entirely built and designed to work on the counter attack. When teams sit deep against us like today we have absolutely nothing to offer, just try to get wide and cross it to nobody, or get it to a winger to cut in and shoot regardless of whether it's his correct foot or not. Joelinton has looked reasonable in CM on the counter attack when there's space to run into but he offered nothing in that role today, we might as well have put him back up front. I respect Howe for trying to play it his way but it's going to take more than 9 games to change the mentality but also get the right players in for that style of football, as this lot and have mostly got by from being coached within an inch of their life by Rafa and individual moments of brilliance during the Bruce reign of terror.

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by Ashley17

[duo]

2 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

It's pretty clear that this is ultimately the issue.

 

The new owners ultimately decided to go with a manager whose philosophy is to play attacking football, and they felt that with the signings in January it would ultimately see the teams fortunes turn around, and the fans would appreciate that style more. I still think that will indeed ultimately be the case too.

 

The alternative would have been to go for a more defensive minded manager to try and grind out results and keep the team up, but then do you just stick with that longer term after? And if they had gone that route would you then back such a manager with players for that style in January if that's not how you ultimately want the side to play going forward?

 

If they really believe in Howe's philosophy and overall approach then just get him in and let him start building this thing with them from the ground up. If we are able to get players in that then gel better with the manager and keep us up then great, and if not, if we do end up going down for a year then so be it, and we'll just have to re-start from there.

With Howe I think he clearly sold them a vision but like you say he has a style he wants to play but it's clear it's not suited to our squad.  There is a place and time for us to play nice attacking football but now is not it.  We need results - horrible back to the wall ground out results. 

 

 

Edited January 8, 2022 by duo

[duo]

7 minutes ago, madras said:

I'd play Gayle up front before ASM. At least he's got it out of his system before it really costs us.

Especially against a League One side - 100% agree.

[Heron]

I'd like to think a lot of home truths have been told behind closed doors tonight.