Vinny Green Balls Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Why are you waffling? Why don't you just answer the question? And if you are going to waffle some more then don't bother as this thread has been derailed enough. “Do your own research” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: looks a bit like Fizz off Corrie, in that pic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, dave s said: my main concern with Howe is.. when the England manager job comes around he’s probably going to be up there as a favourite Not a chance he'd be interested in taking it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, dave s said: my main concern with Howe is.. when the England manager job comes around he’s probably going to be up there as a favourite Not worried at all, he can manage England when he’s 60+. It’s a step down from managing us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I can't see Howe being remotely interested in England whilst he has this project on the go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Let Bruce be England manager. They deserve each other! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 England doesn't concern me at all. I don't see any highly rated manager taking the job unless they're towards the end of their career. I don't think Potter would take it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, elbee909 said: Let Bruce be England manager. They deserve each other! ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave s Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, Cf said: Not a chance he'd be interested in taking it. I don’t think he will take it, but you know his names going to be up there as favourite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 30 minutes ago, elbee909 said: Let Bruce be England manager. They deserve each other! Nearly was before Allardyce got it. Christ, imagine that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I dunno, with the talent in the squad it would surely be very difficult for any English manager to turn down a chance to lead his country to a World Cup win. Surely the absolute ultimate achievement for anyone is to lead their country to a WC win? Fucking hope not, obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 It wouldn't be a bad idea for lampard or Gerrard to go the Southgate route in management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Nearly was before Allardyce got it. Christ, imagine that. Most important English manager of the last ... 100 years. Deserves his chance. I imagine he'd have a pretty tough Jaffa-cake based training camp in Portugal, with players having to bring their own pool inflatables. Then again. International break, you say? With all my experience, that means it's time to put me 'out of office' on, let me tell you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, Kimbo said: England doesn't concern me at all. I don't see any highly rated manager taking the job unless they're towards the end of their career. I don't think Potter would take it either. I think, for an English manager especially, it’s a job anyone would want or consider at least. Let’s not kid ourselves here, Howe will likely be targeted and will likely be interested, that’s one of the reasons I feel he was awarded a new deal most recently as I think after the WC, Southgate will leave regardless of what we achieve or don’t in that tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I don’t buy it. Really good managers in their prime don’t want to be part-timers that get a few days here and there with the players, spending most of the year out of the spotlight. The best managers are almost always in the club game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Kimbo said: I don’t buy it. Really good managers in their prime don’t want to be part-timers that get a few days here and there with the players, spending most of the year out of the spotlight. The best managers are almost always in the club game. The England job is huge now and always has been to be honest, you’re going to be working with some of the best young players in the world and any Englishman will have a strong pull towards it. I doubt we’ll be losing Howe to England any time soon, but if they come calling, he’d seriously consider it and I guarantee they will be seriously considering him to replace when and if Southgate leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I can see Howe getting offerred the England job if it came up afte the World Cup, and I don't think it's impossible that he takes it. The difference between Newcastle and England is in how full-on they are, and that's a postiive and negative for us wanting to keep him. As a positive, he loves work and loves working with players day in, day out, and improving them. He took several L1 players and made them PL regulars with Bournemouth. He won't have that level of contact with England players and they'll all come to him still with their club mentality in their heads and go back largely unchanged after each international. As a negative, he'll be effectively working part-time and as a family man he'll be able to avoid the burnout that managing Newcastle as intensely as he does is likely to bring eventually. Indeed his family may want him to take it for just that reason. Plus, it is the national team after all. I can see both sides. I just hope that if the job does come up, and if he ever is offered it, he says no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, HTT II said: The England job is huge now and always has been to be honest, you’re going to be working with some of the best young players in the world and any Englishman will have a strong pull towards it. I doubt we’ll be losing Howe to England any time soon, but if they come calling, he’d seriously consider it and I guarantee they will be seriously considering him to replace when and if Southgate leaves. Today, I'd say him and Potter would be the top 2 names on the list. That's not to say either would be interested, but I think they're clearly the best 2 English managers right now and both young and exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Today, I'd say him and Potter would be the top 2 names on the list. That's not to say either would be interested, but I think they're clearly the best 2 English managers right now and both young and exciting. Aye and I could see our club being interested in Southgate at some point in time. I doubt Howe will leave us anytime soon though! Edited August 22, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Need Gerrard or Lampard to have some moderate success and then there will be nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 If England do call him he'll tell them politely no. I can't speak for him of course but you don't walk away from a job like ours with the success he can have ahead of him whilst in your prime. Do the England gig when you're near retirement or something. If you're the best English coach then it'll be available for you at some point if you want it. 7 minutes ago, HTT II said: Aye and I could see our club being interested in Southgate at some point in time. I doubt Howe will leave us anytime soon though! Southgate isn't anywhere near the level required for a club aiming high like ours. Howe is in a completely different league to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 16 hours ago, David Edgar said: Maybe. But then if you're thinking about your team set up, you don't make such assumptions. And to be clearer about how the game panned out, we went toe to toe in the first half and were pushed back and pretty much dominated in the second. If you want to be fair about how the game went we didn't just go toe to toe with them in the first half. We outplayed them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cf said: If England do call him he'll tell them politely no. I can't speak for him of course but you don't walk away from a job like ours with the success he can have ahead of him whilst in your prime. Do the England gig when you're near retirement or something. If you're the best English coach then it'll be available for you at some point if you want it. Southgate isn't anywhere near the level required for a club aiming high like ours. Howe is in a completely different league to him. I agree, although profile wise I think Southgate would tick every box for our owners who are rightly so image conscious giving, well, who own us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Southgate may well have a squeaky clean image, but he's a sub-standard football manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I'm convinced some people just can't let themselves enjoy anything like. Ooooh no Real Madrid like Bruno. But what if Howe wants the England job!? Proper going on like Aunt Josephine from A Series of Unfortunate Events. Just enjoy the ride man! These are the good times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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