Paullow Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Barclays Manager shortlist Mikel Arteta (ARS) P5 W4 D1 L0 GD+9 Arsenal began the month with victories over Tottenham Hotspur and Liverpool, going through the month unbeaten and dropping only two points, maintaining their place at the top of the league. Pep Guardiola (MCI) P5 W4 D1 L0 GD+9 Guardiola's Manchester City side started October with a thrilling 6-3 derby win over Manchester United and kept the pressure on leaders Arsenal with four victories from their five matches in the month. Eddie Howe (NEW) P6 W5 D1 L0 GD+13 Newcastle United were top scorers in an unbeaten October, scoring four or more goals in half of their matches, including a 4-1 triumph at Fulham and a 5-1 home success over Brentford. They returned more points than any other side in the month to move into fourth place. They've managed to get that wrong. Man City lost to Liverpool, so their October record is W4 D0 L1 , not W4 D1 L0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Stottie said: While Howe obviously deserves a ton of praise, doesn't the "Schar, Wilson, Joelinton, WIllock, Miggy, Murphy, ... were here already" argument, basically what people say to counter the "big spending Newcastle" dismissal of Howe's achievement, actually mean we had the basis of a probably mid-table team to start with? Some readers may be worried where I'm going with this, but our recent results only emphasize that we were second bottom a year ago not because we had an underfunded team of shit players but because Steve Bruce is a lazy and inept fraud of a manager. Ashley main failing was not in starving the team of resources but in employing such a yes-man plank in the most important position. It's a bit of both, innit. Howe has performed miracles with a few of those players. Plus the new players have doubtless raised standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Remember Bruce getting it and being photographed on his own, holding it like it was his very own massive kebab then Eddie winning it and getting photographed with the whole backroom team? Chalk n cheese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 https://www.premierleague.com/news/2886520 ^Vote here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 They’ve got Guardiola as undefeated in the month - my memory isn’t what it was but surely the Liverpool game was in October Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, HawK said: https://www.premierleague.com/news/2886520 ^Vote here I've voted. Can't believe Almiron's only got 1 goal of the month contender, meanwhile there's inferior versions of his goals against Villa and Everton nominated for Antony and De Bruyne. Big 6 favouratism all over the place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yorkie Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 https://nufcfeed.com/eddie-howes-friday-press-conference-4th-november-97437 Full presser breakdown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 “It’s all because they’ve spent loads of money” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Smal said: “It’s all because they’ve spent loads of money” So what's Everton's and even Liverpools excuse? Edited November 4, 2022 by gjohnson extra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11390627/Eddie-Howe-claims-believed-Newcastle-squad-fires-dig-Steve-Bruce.html When asked if he believed those players were always better than people gave them credit for, Howe said: ‘Yes, I did. I had that belief internally that we'd got some really good players. I think my first impressions were genuine, a really willing group that wanted to be coached, that wanted help, so I felt that was a really good starting point. ‘I love coaching players and trying to improve them. From day one here, I sensed a really open group who wanted that work. I don’t feel we have bought the success we’re currently having. It has come from hard work and brilliant performances from the players. We’re just doing the best we can, day to day. It was a massive club in need of an injection of positivity and some good results.’ ‘Down the years, I’ve learned never to underestimate players’ abilities given the right surroundings, conditions and confidence,’ he said. ‘I’ve seen it many times, players I’ve worked with at League Two level that have then been playing in the Championship a couple of years later when you wouldn’t have initially thought that possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11390627/Eddie-Howe-claims-believed-Newcastle-squad-fires-dig-Steve-Bruce.html When asked if he believed those players were always better than people gave them credit for, Howe said: ‘Yes, I did. I had that belief internally that we'd got some really good players. I think my first impressions were genuine, a really willing group that wanted to be coached, that wanted help, so I felt that was a really good starting point. ‘I love coaching players and trying to improve them. From day one here, I sensed a really open group who wanted that work. I don’t feel we have bought the success we’re currently having. It has come from hard work and brilliant performances from the players. We’re just doing the best we can, day to day. It was a massive club in need of an injection of positivity and some good results.’ ‘Down the years, I’ve learned never to underestimate players’ abilities given the right surroundings, conditions and confidence,’ he said. ‘I’ve seen it many times, players I’ve worked with at League Two level that have then been playing in the Championship a couple of years later when you wouldn’t have initially thought that possible. They wouldn't have got there without you, Mr Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, nbthree3 said: "...........I’ve learned never to underestimate players’ abilities given the right surroundings, conditions and confidence,’ he said. ‘I’ve seen it many times, players I’ve worked with at the bottom of the Premier that will be playing in the Champions League in a years time when you wouldn’t have initially thought that possible. I read this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Another scandalous headline from a rag after the presser. They love painting him as some sort of belligerent guy with a chip on his shoulder when in reality it couldn't be further from the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Why does Hope have to be like that ffs Edited November 4, 2022 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Another scandalous headline from a rag after the presser. They love painting him as some sort of belligerent guy with a chip on his shoulder when in reality it couldn't be further from the truth. Yep. Wasn't his intention at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Why does Hope have to be like that ffs I could be mistaken, but I don't think it's the journo who produces the headline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Hmm, a spending chart that omits Forest....righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Stottie said: Hmm, a spending chart that omits Forest....righto. it doesn’t. You just have to open the whole chart. We are mid table and below the average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Who's the woman who is there most weeks? It's probably just a Mail / Express journalist equivalent like a Bird, Hope, Waugh etc. but she sounds so familiar, as if she's on TV, but I can never think of who it is, and have the same thoughts every time I listen to an Eddie press conference Anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 Full image, the original tweet crop makes it look like we've spent load when in fact we're middle of the pack. Most of that will be Isaak who has hardly played too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I guess that's where you'd want to be, somewhere in the middle right? Not sure if it's just me but that metric is a waste of time and tells you very little on it's own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: I could be mistaken, but I don't think it's the journo who produces the headline. Good point tbh! Apologies, Craig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: I guess that's where you'd want to be, somewhere in the middle right? Not sure if it's just me but that metric is a waste of time and tells you very little on it's own. It tells you Forrest has fucked it up good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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