AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I think he looks a lot more settled and relaxed than when he first arrived. Understandably of course. He won't be running the whole club in the future either, we're building top teams in every area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think he looks a lot more settled and relaxed than when he first arrived. Understandably of course. He won't be running the whole club in the future either, we're building top teams in every area. well his missus has moved up hasnt she. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Interesting bit on MNF just now. Carragher seemed pretty complimentary overall. The style and stats show how different Howe has us playing. Dyche seemed almost passive aggressive with his praise. Didn’t really get what he was on about. I did find it odd that they were showing how passive we were under Bruce. But then when it came to a clip to use for comparison it was ‘we have to go right back to 2017 when Rafa Benitez was manager.’ No, no we don’t. We were like that every week under Bruce FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I think Dyche meant how expressive we are under Howe. Under Bruce and Rafa there was very little attacking mindset. Limited in players all pushing forward and pushing the opposition back. We liked to counter attack under both of those mangers with obviously mixed results. Under Howe its push high and express flair and attacking mentality even late on in the game. Still like to counter attack but how Dyche was saying its like kids in a sweet shop was quite a good explanation imo, that's why we're seeing the performances from Miggy etc, they just love how things are at the minute and a free to play how they want while at the same time sticking to a very organised game plan. It's so unbelievably good to watch and must be incredible to play considering how they were told to play under previous managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Full league table for 2022 for the 17 clubs involved in both seasons. An incredible sight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Paullow said: Full league table for 2022 for the 17 clubs involved in both seasons. An incredible sight This is even better.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, duo said: This is even better.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table Debatable. 1.9 PPG vs 1.75, much longer period. well clear of Man Utd, and even further away from all of the 'lesser' pack. It really is staggering to see us winning 17 of the last 30 games (excluding the Watford draw in the first league match of 22). We've not had this kind of form for about 20 years, not even that one good year under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 13 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think he looks a lot more settled and relaxed than when he first arrived. Understandably of course. He won't be running the whole club in the future either, we're building top teams in every area. God damn I’m so fucking stoked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Joelinton: was about to be rode out of town. Scorned object of derision who has been transformed into a near elite midfielder who is a leader on the pitch and a genuine good guy. Miggy: ran around like a muppett, scared of his own shadow. Now plays with bags of confidence and scores for fun. Longstaff: raised up by Rafa only to sink back into the quagmire under Brewce. He's not a world beater by any stretch but used correctly can be relied upon for a quality shift. Murphy: another headless chicken who has been given proper direction and is now a serviceable PL player. Shelvey: fat, lazy and disinterested. Under Howe he has gotten fit and has a bit of fire. The old Shelvey would have milked the injury until the WC at least. It was great to see him back Schar: Brewce had him on the scrap heap. He's back where he belongs. That's six guys. They were lost money. They weren't contributing and nobody wanted them. Under Howe they have confidence and play with purpose. Just like new signings, indeed, with no extra cost. Brilliant work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Consortium of one said: Joelinton: was about to be rode out of town. Scorned object of derision who has been transformed into a near elite midfielder who is a leader on the pitch and a genuine good guy. Miggy: ran around like a muppett, scared of his own shadow. Now plays with bags of confidence and scores for fun. Longstaff: raised up by Rafa only to sink back into the quagmire under Brewce. He's not a world beater by any stretch but used correctly can be relied upon for a quality shift. Murphy: another headless chicken who has been given proper direction and is now a serviceable PL player. Shelvey: fat, lazy and disinterested. Under Howe he has gotten fit and has a bit of fire. The old Shelvey would have milked the injury until the WC at least. It was great to see him back Schar: Brewce had him on the scrap heap. He's back where he belongs. That's six guys. They were lost money. They weren't contributing and nobody wanted them. Under Howe they have confidence and play with purpose. Just like new signings, indeed, with no extra cost. Brilliant work. Good write up on them, would disagree about Murphy being a serviceable PL player though, he’s awful and championship level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Consortium of one said: Joelinton: was about to be rode out of town. Scorned object of derision who has been transformed into a near elite midfielder who is a leader on the pitch and a genuine good guy. Miggy: ran around like a muppett, scared of his own shadow. Now plays with bags of confidence and scores for fun. Longstaff: raised up by Rafa only to sink back into the quagmire under Brewce. He's not a world beater by any stretch but used correctly can be relied upon for a quality shift. Murphy: another headless chicken who has been given proper direction and is now a serviceable PL player. Shelvey: fat, lazy and disinterested. Under Howe he has gotten fit and has a bit of fire. The old Shelvey would have milked the injury until the WC at least. It was great to see him back Schar: Brewce had him on the scrap heap. He's back where he belongs. That's six guys. They were lost money. They weren't contributing and nobody wanted them. Under Howe they have confidence and play with purpose. Just like new signings, indeed, with no extra cost. Brilliant work. I want to quote this post verbatim every time I have to read or listen to some ill-informed tosser go on about money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said: I want to quote this post verbatim every time I have to read or listen to some ill-informed tosser go on about money. Big Joe cost £40m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Big Joe cost £40m And he's now worth at least that when he was on the verge of being given away for nowt after being Bruced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Consortium of one said: Joelinton: was about to be rode out of town. Scorned object of derision who has been transformed into a near elite midfielder who is a leader on the pitch and a genuine good guy. Miggy: ran around like a muppett, scared of his own shadow. Now plays with bags of confidence and scores for fun. Longstaff: raised up by Rafa only to sink back into the quagmire under Brewce. He's not a world beater by any stretch but used correctly can be relied upon for a quality shift. Murphy: another headless chicken who has been given proper direction and is now a serviceable PL player. Shelvey: fat, lazy and disinterested. Under Howe he has gotten fit and has a bit of fire. The old Shelvey would have milked the injury until the WC at least. It was great to see him back Schar: Brewce had him on the scrap heap. He's back where he belongs. That's six guys. They were lost money. They weren't contributing and nobody wanted them. Under Howe they have confidence and play with purpose. Just like new signings, indeed, with no extra cost. Brilliant work. Very well said. Might as well chuck Fraser and Krafth in there as well, for their dramatically improved performances last season. Last season's emphatic resurgence is definitely a contributing factor to the incredible start we've had this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 It's all so much fun man. So who's next on the redemption arc? I'm going to go with Jamal Lewis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's all so much fun man. So who's next on the redemption arc? I'm going to go with Jamal Lewis. Reckon we are pretty much done with redemption arcs. The only one I could foresee is Lascelles if Schar was to get injured and even then I couldn't imagine how Eddie would turn Lascelles into Franz Beckenbauer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Lascelles was already looking much better on the ball in pre-season and his few appearances this season. That one might yet be a goer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's all so much fun man. So who's next on the redemption arc? I'm going to go with Jamal Lewis. Karius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I know he's still had a good few games under Howe, but I think ASM will take it up to a whole different level after the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ste said: I know he's still had a good few games under Howe, but I think ASM will take it up to a whole different level after the World Cup. If he can stay fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, KaKa said: It's all so much fun man. So who's next on the redemption arc? I'm going to go with Jamal Lewis. Would take an injury crisis for that to happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Getting a feeling that other clubs may try and replicate our tactics of pressing high and heavy now our successes are being highlighted and from the snippits flagged up on MOTD it looks like it. Think we've a manager that has a lot more than the ideas currently being highlighted in the locker though and can successfully change the style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Getting a feeling that other clubs may try and replicate our tactics of pressing high and heavy now our successes are being highlighted and from the snippits flagged up on MOTD it looks like it. Think we've a manager that has a lot more than the ideas currently being highlighted in the locker though and can successfully change the style. It's not like the way we play us anything new. Terms like "high press" might be quite vogue but the top teams have always had more energy and intensity. The better players they have the less energy they need because they read the game quicker. They've also had better squads so can soak up the fatigue injuries. Lesser clubs can't and, more to the point, it can't be done overnight. Took Howe 2 months 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) It's absolute suicide if not done in the correct way though. Player fitness is key. Will be interesting to see how fit we look towards the end of the season as we put so much of a shift in every game. The World Cup break will help massively for us especially I would imagine. Edited October 25, 2022 by Scotty66 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: It's absolute suicide if not done in the correct way though. Player fitness is key. Will be interesting to see how fit we look towards the end of the season as we put so much of a shift in every game. The World Cup break will help massively for us especially I would imagine. Yes, and then the new recruits, A fit Isak and Maxi aside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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