The Bonk Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Hilariously predictable what's happened to him, like. It really is astonishing how much he's regressed. Give the impression that last year he wasn't listening to Bruce as he knew he'd be back at Arsenal. Imagine he's thinking a new manager couldn't come soon enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 But why not just play the shape that worked with these players late last season, even? Willock was so deep today and because he’s paired with ASM he spends so much time covering wide. Stupid question, I know. Can’t wait until we’ve got a competent manager again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 As mentioned during the commentary, the fact that 5 of the starting line were from the Championship side and grew to 6 with the introduction of Shelvey, tells you everything you need to know about the current issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 occasion euphoria performance lasted about 10 minutes, cue training session like ease for the away team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Dreadful experience really. The pre-match and first five minutes were class. Loudest roar I’ve heard at SJP for years. After that, it was typically shit. Chants for Bruce out non-existent until the final 10 minutes and could hear a pin drop for the majority. Stadium full of an Ashley generation. Hopefully the individual in the East Stand will be okay. It was recognisably a dreadful incident a few moments before the crowd managed to get the game stopped. Fair play to all involved though (including the players, specifically Eric Dier) who summoned help very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Not a dreadful experience in my eyes. I knew we wouldn't win but even for the build up and the 1st 10 mins, watching my lads faces was everything. My littlest said his ears were buzzing due to the noise at the start and 1st goal. The rest was shit but Im glad I went. The new owners look invested in the club and so I hope we now start to turn this oil tanker around. Starting with Bruce getting the sack tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Dreadful experience really. The pre-match and first five minutes were class. Loudest roar I’ve heard at SJP for years. After that, it was typically shit. Chants for Bruce out non-existent until the final 10 minutes and could hear a pin drop for the majority. Stadium full of an Ashley generation. Hopefully the individual in the East Stand will be okay. It was recognisably a dreadful incident a few moments before the crowd managed to get the game stopped. Fair play to all involved though (including the players, specifically Eric Dier) who summoned help very quickly. Must agree apart from the pre match and the first 10 mins it’s was classic Ashley years . The game means nothing when a fellow fan was in trouble , I couldn’t tell from my seat but fingers crossed. Game went as expected but means nowt in truth compared to that fans struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fantail Breeze Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, GWN said: Must agree apart from the pre match and the first 10 mins it’s was classic Ashley years . The game means nothing when a fellow fan was in trouble , I couldn’t tell from my seat but fingers crossed. Game went as expected but means nowt in truth compared to that fans struggle. It was close to us and did not look good at all. Really pleased to hear they are now stable and appearing to be on the road to recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I mean, there’s no point in the Bruce out chants now I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Dreadful experience really. The pre-match and first five minutes were class. Loudest roar I’ve heard at SJP for years. After that, it was typically shit. Chants for Bruce out non-existent until the final 10 minutes and could hear a pin drop for the majority. Stadium full of an Ashley generation. Hopefully the individual in the East Stand will be okay. It was recognisably a dreadful incident a few moments before the crowd managed to get the game stopped. Fair play to all involved though (including the players, specifically Eric Dier) who summoned help very quickly. I really think most fans went to the game to celebrate today, probably didn't want to sour the atmosphere by protest chants....until they were almost forced into it by the sheer ineptitude on display. Agree on the stadium being full of the Ashley generation, but that's because the hardcore fans either got priced out or gave up their season tickets in protest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRon said: I really think most fans went to the game to celebrate today, probably didn't want to sour the atmosphere by protest chants....until they were almost forced into it by the sheer ineptitude on display. Agree on the stadium being full of the Ashley generation, but that's because the hardcore fans either got priced out or gave up their season tickets in protest. Maybe so, but doesn’t explain why the stadium was pretty much near silent from five minutes onward, despite us leading at that point. Not helped by the god awful tactics and football on display, but still really poor. It can only get better from here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Well the game was mostly shit, but I can't deny that I shed a tear after we scored the first goal. That's the most I've celebrated a goal in years, and it just felt like such a release of emotion to finally give a shit again about us. Aside from the result, we've got just a handful of decent players and really need a complete overhaul in January. Bruce is not the man to oversea this and needs to be gone by the morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I mean, there’s no point in the Bruce out chants now I suppose. Unless he's still there on Saturday - don't for a second think he will be mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Rich said: But why not just play the shape that worked with these players late last season, even? Willock was so deep today and because he’s paired with ASM he spends so much time covering wide. Stupid question, I know. Can’t wait until we’ve got a competent manager again. We have. We've played that 5-3-1-1 up until he changed it v Leeds. Teams find us out and Bruce, due to being so shit, is unable to adapt. We played 5-4-1 for the bulk of 2019-20 and we were defensively solid relatively speaking pre-COVID, COVID hit and teams proceeded to find us out after the restart, hence our 2 wins in 9. Then in 2020-21 he went back to a back 5 in late December, sticking with that until Jones came in. We then played that 'split striker' bullshit that Jones brought in before we then reverted to the 5-3-1-1 which you refer to. We change formation, it brings us relative success for ~8 games before teams find us out, then it takes Bruce another 10 games to realise that and change it. It's so incompetent it's embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 If we are going to play 4 at the back the CB pairing can't be Lascelles and Clark, both are shite with the ball at their feet I'd go Fernandez and Schar, think Lascelles works fine as part of a back 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It’s not a total surprise we are pathetic defensively when our two best defenders are sat on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Matt Ritchie as LB in a 4 is a sex crime. Horrible Fernandez ad Schar are our best 2, I agree. Mix of abilities. Edited October 17, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 It was difficult to make out what was going on but a guy in a grey jumper ran around to where the struggling fan was and jumped in to help. I take it he was a doctor or nurse - was absolutely mesmerising to watch someone react like that, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Richie never has and never will be a defender and Bruce wonders why we concede so many goals. Its because he continues to play people out of position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Matt Ritchie as LB in a 4 is a sex crime. Horrible With Jokelinton ahead of him n all. Emerson won’t have an easier game all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: It's very telling that a lot of the match day reports (from members getting back) are more about the crowd (and event) than the game. The game was so fucking poor after 15-20 mins, there clearly isn't much else to talk about. Somehow the team managed to bend the fabric of time and make it draaaaaaag the fuck out. Exciting thing, for me, is that we can finally be optimistic that we're going to steadily improve. Deliberately improve, if you like. It'll take years...but it'll be better and better as we improve. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 those new Saudi young fans `oh yes you fucking black and white beauties ` ` what the fuck is this shit ?` Welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Fernandez ad Schar are our best 2, I agree. Mix of abilities. Both of them were bought to play as part of a back 3, as were most of our central defenders. Bruce is trying to change things without having the slightest clue how to go about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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