triggs Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Trippier would be a statement of intent. It certainly wouldn't be "so far stink of pulling the pissed ugly munter at the end of the night" People are mad some of the players they're turning their noses up at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 We arent going to have a squad full of 30/40/50m players in every position (yet) but we all know most of the squad need to go so we need to "pad" the team out with younger not playing every week players especially as we appear to be linked to alot of older more seasoned players they arent going to exactly be around very long. We havent given them a window or two yet to see how they want to play this while we do need immediate impact this window we also need to try and replace what we can when the right deals come up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 We need a new CB and keeper really like but money also needs to be spent elsewhere so someone like Rodon would be a good shout imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: We need a new CB and keeper really like but money also needs to be spent elsewhere so someone like Rodon would be a good shout imo. Keeper is by a country mile the least if our problems like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 The January loan market has been a decent stomping ground on the whole for us in recent years. Bruce's first one bore little fruit in terms of quality, but that's only because he didn't want to play Lazaro, who was canny. Dubravka, Kenedy, Slimani (at a push), Lazaro, Willock. Bentaleb and Rose were rubbish but gave us some value in terms of appearances/cover. That's a decent hit rate in recent years. Players are being presented with an opportunity to prove themselves. The context is a bit different now cos we're such a basket case but I certainly wouldn't be against the likes of Rodon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 54 said: Keeper is by a country mile the least if our problems like It really isn't. A significant upgrade there would be huge for us, but it will probably have to wait until the summer. I've seen 'least of our worries' said of about five players in recent weeks. The team is terrible so I don't think you can rank any player above another. Every one of them is the most of our worries. Except Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, 54 said: Keeper is by a country mile the least if our problems like Well aye because the rest of our squad is absolutely awful. We really are desperate for a new keeper though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I suppose the priority argument comes down to the fact for squad balance etc we wont be getting a new 11 in a single window if we only signed say 5 players which 6 positions would you be more happy/comfortable about leaving with the current squad. Although factoring in some need shipping or unregistering in order to free up squad places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I think Dubravka is still a decent keeper personally. Yes he was at fault for the opener on Sunday, but he's usually quite commanding of his area, and he did pull off at least one wonder save as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Are people shitting on Dubs all of a sudden? Thats news. Personally think he's a great keeper, bit off form since he came back from injury admittedly, but he's gained us much more points then he's cost us, and would personally rank him as our second best keeper of the Premier League era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 If we could only sign 5 players I'd probably go: CAM CDM RW RB LB As calamitous as our defence is we have nobody on the pitch who can either score or create anything other than Wilson and ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, 54 said: Are people shitting on Dubs all of a sudden? Thats news. Personally think he's a great keeper, bit off form since he came back from injury admittedly, but he's gained us much more points then he's cost us, and would personally rank him as our second best keeper of the Premier League era. Even so if he's injured (which he is known for) we're left with Darlow. Dubs isn't really a great all-round keeper though, is he? He's a great shot stopper on his day but we could definitely do a lot better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Dubravka routinely makes errors, is always injured and is one fifth/sixth of an abominable defence that totally shits itself at least once every single game, so he's absolutely accountable. I loved him in his first year and a half but he looks to me like yet another one who's suffered from having a functioning football strategy ripped from underneath him. I've been saying this for a while now but you really can't underestimate the influence of a great keeper; they set the tone of the defence and - depending on what sort of team you are - play a big role in possession and building attacks. The sooner we replace as many players currently in the squad the better; I don't think there's anyone I'd be desperate to keep based on what I've seen since the beginning of October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Even so if he's injured (which he is known for) we're left with Darlow. Dubs isn't really a great all-round keeper though, is he? He's a great shot stopper on his day but we could definitely do a lot better. I personally would say he is, he's commanding of his box, he continually organizes and communicates the defense (This weekend aside, that was horrendous ), his distribution is decent, while not spectacular, and his shot-stopping is absolutely class. I'm not saying he shouldnt be replaced in the next 2/3 windows by the way, as I think with his age and namely his injury record he will need to be, and naturally there are better keepers out there, but for the next window he is the least of our concerns, he's a solid mid-table/lower top half keeper, a bit like Fabianski. Edited December 21, 2021 by 54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I hope the keeper situation can wait and hope its mainly down to how poor the defence is in front of him adding to the pressure/errors etc a new back 4 with a new central midfield player and a back up striker (ok so thats me asking for 6) would hopefully assist in dragging the poor squad along and making up for its deficiencies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, 54 said: I personally would say he is, he's commanding of his box, he continually organizes and communicates the defense (This weekend aside, that was horrendous ), his distribution is decent, while not spectacular, and his shot-stopping is absolutely class. I'm not saying he shouldnt be replaced in the next 2/3 windows by the way, as I think with his age and namely his injury record he will need to be, and naturally there are better keepers out there, but for the next window he is the least of our concerns, he's a solid mid-table/lower top half keeper, a bit like Fabianski. Yeah this is where I am. I'm not saying he's what we need going forward, but for now at least, GK is not a priority position. There are far too many other areas need addressing first. But by all means, if we can get 8-10 signings in of the requisite quality then go ahead, sign a £25-40m keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Joe Rodon. Loan. Maybe. (telegraph) Edited December 21, 2021 by Mr Raspberry Jam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Jackie Broon said: Transfer fees are amortised over the length of a player's contract rather than being shown in the accounts as a lump sum when the transfer is made. Looking at their accounts Everton will be hamstrung by FFP for a while yet. I totally get why this is the case and that it follows accounting rules but it is bullshit for FFP purposes. Easy get around, offer a 10 year contract and slash your spend in the year. It should really follow the idea of capital allowances in tax law where your capital spend is spread over a set number of years. Everyone is on the same playing field then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, gjohnson said: It's not exactly the statement of intent we were all hoping for though is it? Yes he may well be better than what we have (not difficult), but it doesn't indicate that there are plans for massive investment in the playing squad Plus, I thought it was a given that the '6' had agreed to refuse to deal with us. Hope it's not true as all PIF/Stavely/Rueben choices so far stink of pulling the pissed ugly munter at the end of the night 'cos it's all they can get rather than putting in effort to get who they actually want We're bottom of the league. You dont go for big longer term signings when you're bottom of the league. You go for players that will get you out of that position. Then go for the better long term players when you're in a better position to attract quality. Edited December 21, 2021 by Teasy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 most needed positions, IMO holding Mid commanding CB creative Mid RB (Trippier) CF (we're screwed if Wilson is out) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, joeyt said: Trippier would be a statement of intent. It certainly wouldn't be "so far stink of pulling the pissed ugly munter at the end of the night" Trippier certainly would be a statement of intent and isthe best player we've been linked with so far Edited December 21, 2021 by gjohnson Correction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Trippier and statement of intent is something i guess we'll hear quite a lot of over the next 5 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Linked with Rusnak from MLS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, arnonel said: Linked with Rusnak from MLS He's in contract negotiations with his MLS club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Martial wants to go to Sevilla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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