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Howe's decision making on players was patchy at best when he arrived here like (weird lineups), and obviously there's questions over whoever was advising him and I'm assuming they're the same people who will be involved in recruitment now until we get a DoF in?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

I just don’t get what you mean tbh, you could apply that logic to any signing under Ashley, carr and Nixon are no mugs but people still had opinions.

 

I don’t feel like people not discussing a signing purely because Ashley isn’t here is healthy for discussion. Having reservations about a player doesn’t mean I want Ashley back, or think Howe’s a mug. 

I think Ashley's approach to signings and the aims of the club were very different so wouldn't look at the same way. 

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7 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Howe's decision making on players was patchy at best when he arrived here like (weird lineups), and obviously there's questions over whoever was advising him and I'm assuming they're the same people who will be involved in recruitment now until we get a DoF in?

 

 

 

Didn't he just come to a club that was stuck playing a certain way tho with poor fitness levels and no motivation. If Clark and lascelles etc were at 60% fitness when he came imagine what the lads like fede who hadn't played all season were like. It was never going to be instant changes with howe coming in his goal would have been to get some sort of team fitness and mentality together for January which he has done successfully. His decision to dump Clark and play a back 4 was always going to be gradual but now we look back in hindsight it was obvious and he would probably say the same in hindsight. 

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4 minutes ago, Shak said:

Botman seems like the kind of signing we should be making. You're hopefully getting a player who'll develop into a cornerstone of the team for the next decade.

 

I get the idea behind signing Trippier and Ramsay of course, players who can hit the ground running and hopefully keep us up. I'd definitely prefer a bunch of FM-tastic wonderkids though :lol:

 

Yeah, I think Trippier makes complete sense because he's got leadership qualities which we really need, and he knows the manager and his expectations completely. 

 

Ramsey is a big worry fitness wise, but if they have any kind of assurances over that, then it would be a very solid move. However, if he just came over and then got injured it would be a disaster.

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Peak Ramsey is well in the distance from everything I've seen and read. He used to be very very good, as good as any CM we've had for decades at his peak tbh. I've just not seen enough of that recently enough to justify signing him. Put whatever his wage would have been into signing someone who's still hungry and wanting to perform. 

 

Just feels like dead money spending it on him right now. 

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My 6 signings going off all the rumours I’ve read so far would be -

 

Trippier

Botman

Rodon (loan)

Kamara

Fofana

Cabral or Jovic (loan)

 

I can’t recall seeing a decent LB linked but if one’s available I’d possibly swap Fofana for one.

 

On the striker front I’d be happy with a loan if it meant we go all out for a Vlahovic / Isak type signing in the summer. Big no to a Ramsey or Dembele type signing from me (though I do type that with a wry smile, as it would have been laughable to suggest them a few months ago).

 

 

 

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See Icardi going Juve for 35m euros. Mental.

 

Also why are you on a football discussion forum if you're "on board with everything the consortium/Howe do"

 

Surely the main idea of football is opinion and debate?

 

Not having a dig by the way, just confused

 

 

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1 hour ago, ManDoon said:

He’s fully despised at Juve, prob for comments like this:

 

”"I know what I can do with the right training I can stay fit for a long period of time and play a lot of games. I feel good when I am given the opportunity and I am managed correctly. Here with Wales, they allow me to play a lot of games in a row”

 

Tbh, that could just be him being pissed off at not getting enough game time. I was more concerned that he was missing games through injury. Might be he just wants to come back to England in which case he would be very motivated at a chance to resurrect his club career. 

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1 hour ago, midds said:

Peak Ramsey is well in the distance from everything I've seen and read. He used to be very very good, as good as any CM we've had for decades at his peak tbh. I've just not seen enough of that recently enough to justify signing him. Put whatever his wage would have been into signing someone who's still hungry and wanting to perform. 

 

Just feels like dead money spending it on him right now. 

 

Yeap, same with Coutinho.  We need players who are playing and in decent form to hit the ground running.

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I get the worries about fitness and yes it would be a total waste of a space and money if he got injured again but if we could get him fit and up for it I think he would make a huge difference to the relegation fight, big chance to take though. 

 

 

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At least Coutinho had somewhat of a good season with Bayern last year, but the way he’s carrying on at Barca, for whatever reason, we should be avoiding players like that. I suspect Ramsey is less of an ego but he still misses too much playing time, would he even cope with the effort of a high press?

 

Although signing better players at the back and in midfield, we’re going to have more of the ball so it won’t be as much of a requirement as it is right now.

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we need players with immediat impact and motivation even if we paid more for 6 months 

 

ramsay possible mais not sur but we need players experience 

 

the captain of burley is a necessary with trippier , and another one in defense this week 

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Ramsay / trippier / Tarkowski / jovic / Kamara   for the end of the week in order to be attracted with goods players next week end :) 

 

because after  we need a player like lindgard or hazard for the end , and a player like zacaria 

 

maybe a goal keeper to finish 

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