Newcastle United 0 - 4 Manchester City (19/12/2021)

[Awaymag]

Just now, ManDoon said:

You sit in a really low defensive block, drill the players into ceding possession but staying in very compact and organized ways. Rafa had these CBS. 

That was 2-3 years ago.  They've got older, slower.  May as well sign Shearer, he scored 20 a season, years ago.  Get Ginola as well

[Dr Jinx]

On the match itself, positives to take, we did try and play a bit after going 1 down to THAT goal.. even after the second with more calamitous defending, we still had chances.

 

The lack of a penalty decision seemed to take all the stuffing out of us though..

 

Joelinton was great, actually stick some competent midfielders around him and that’s his position from now on.

 

I’m struggling to pick any more though, the rest of the team were dogshit. Just transfer list everyone apart from Wilson, ASM, Almiron, Fede & Joelinton

[BlueStar]

Anyone else see the poor fella flat on his back with his shirt off outside the club shop near the Strawberry, with a load of paramedics doing chest compressions on him? Didn't look good at all 😔

[Kanji]

15 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Aye but there’s levels to it. Rafa did it a lot and it worked a lot. With worse squads 

Id say the defenders then was better - younger and less injuries than they’ve got now. Same goes with most of the squad still playing - all were younger and better form. Jamaal was faster, did the simple stuff right. Clark was effective. Schar was shit hot. Lejeune was next level. Fede solid. Hayden was decent. Diame was awesome at the end. Merino was class. Longstaff was coming on. 
 

winning the Rafa way worked out with them because Rafa made these decent players better as a whole. But what I’m saying is these same players are really just not good anymore. 

[Cronky]

Having looked at it again, their second goal was not a worldie. The attacker was able to advance all the way to the centre and edge of the penalty area, and set himself perfectly before shooting. Loads of players would have scored from that position.

 

A proper DM - and Hayden is not one - would have kept in a position to block that. And our central defenders lack confidence and don't impose themselves.

 

I used to think, on balance, that the better strategy with our squad was to just get men behind the ball and hope for the best. However, I can see that Howe is at least laying the foundations of a more positive approach, and if we can get some better players in come January, at least they'll be coming in to system that's designed to pick up wins, which we're going to need.

 

In those positions, DM and centre back, we won't need to break the bank to at least make some improvements.

[Rafalove]

5 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

Anyone else see the poor fella flat on his back with his shirt off outside the club shop near the Strawberry, with a load of paramedics doing chest compressions on him? Didn't look good at all 😔

 

 

Worrying

[TRon]

7 minutes ago, Cronky said:

Having looked at it again, their second goal was not a worldie. The attacker was able to advance all the way to the centre and edge of the penalty area, and set himself perfectly before shooting. Loads of players would have scored from that position.

 

A proper DM - and Hayden is not one - would have kept in a position to block that. And our central defenders lack confidence and don't impose themselves.

 

I used to think, on balance, that the better strategy with our squad was to just get men behind the ball and hope for the best. However, I can see that Howe is at least laying the foundations of a more positive approach, and if we can get some better players in come January, at least they'll be coming in to system that's designed to pick up wins, which we're going to need.

 

In those positions, DM and centre back, we won't need to break the bank to at least make some improvements.

 

Even given he ghosted past the two midfielders too easily, the worst part of that goal was the two defenders turning their backs on the shot instead of diving in to get the blocks in. He took an extra touch, a genuine defender never lets the shot get off cleanly once he's took that. 

[Cronky]

3 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Even given he ghosted past the two midfielders too easily, the worst part of that goal was the two defenders turning their backs on the shot instead of diving in to get the blocks in. He took an extra touch, a genuine defender never lets the shot get off cleanly once he's took that. 

 

All of our central defenders are scared of making a mistake, and end up in no-man's land. We've got a group of Steven Taylors.

[Heron]

Just now, ManDoon said:

What annoys me is our players won’t even just foul if they have to. If willock is taking himself out the game that way he has to take their player with him 

Was our weakest link today

[Heron]

A catalogue of individual errors for the first: Dubravka giving away the corner, Clark not taking responsibility, Dubravka not communicating and/or taking charge.

 

Second goal, thoughtless from Willock, poor luck with the slip, didn't close it down quick enough, top quality finish. Not too dissimilar from the Liverpool third.

 

Absolute stone wall penalty not given which gives us a route back into the game.

 

Matched them first half aside from daft mistakes.

 

Don't really blame Howe for having a slight go by bringing ASM on, don't think it effected the result negatively to be honest. May have snatched something back.

 

Joelinton MotM again for us, for me.

 

Overall the game was won on decision making. Poor decision making from our team, poor decision making from the referee, and almost flawless decision making from Man City.

 

They'll win the league.

 

Was well proud at the end seeing the Gallowgate rallying though. Exactly what's needed right now. 

 

[GWN]

50 minutes ago, Alan Pardew said:

You would think most of these players would give it their absolute all given the current changes happening at the club. Instead we are seeing absolute tepid performances all across the board. To these players I say: Get the fuck out. 

These games under Eddie so far have been just as infuriating as the last ones under Bruce. Not Howe's fault that these lot can't be arsed to put in a performance.

 

They are just shite, I said a long time ago one of the biggest problems we have is that almost all bar one or two know they will be gone at the end of the season (or should be) they have nothing to run through brick walls for now.

[Yorkie]

Not seen owt of this but Jesus, more fucking misery eh. 

[GWN]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

Not seen owt of this but Jesus, more fucking misery eh. 

 

Nothing not one of us didn't expect .move on 

[midds]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Not seen owt of this but Jesus, more fucking misery eh. 

I don't even need to talk you through it, you've seen it dozens of times. Absolutely typical performance 

[Collage]

Just now, GWN said:

 

Nothing not one of us didn't expect .move on 

Yep. This game didn’t change anything. We did ok in the first half with a terrible starting XI against a superior team who would beat us blind-folded. Actually looking forward to the Manure game.

[thomas]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Not seen owt of this but Jesus, more fucking misery eh. 

honestly I'd skip it unless you're already in the gimp suit and strapped in to the saltire cross.

[The Bonk]

1 minute ago, thomas said:

honestly I'd skip it unless you're already in the gimp suit and strapped in to the saltire cross.

 

 sounds more entertaining and enjoyable, if that's your thing. 

[Jinky Jim]

Just watched Sky’s highlights……First goal, Rule number one, never duck out of the way of a header inside the 6 yard box. Second goal is just poor defensive midfield play, any competent defensive midfielder (of which we’ve not had one for yonks), would have tracked and blocked the run leading to the shot……Third and fourth goals are just terrible full back play with not tracking the runner….however don’t blame Richie and Murphy too much as they are not natural full backs…….All the goals were poor, defensively, but City just coast through our midfield, so in the January window, there is a desperate need for proper Midfield players, with plenty of energy and the ability to protect the back 4 (We need 3 of them)…Play Schar ,Manquillo, Fernandez and Drummet/Lewis….provide them with some midfield protection, add another CF and then cross fingers.

[HaydnNUFC]

Wasn't an absolutely terrible performance tbh but you can't defend a 0-4 home defeat to any team. How we weren't given a pen was a fucking disgrace, but the one against us at Leicester was. Utter fucking joke.

 

Team just isn't good enough. We have to stay within 6 points by the time the window comes round to attract the players we desperately need.

[joeyt]

Ederson is going to seriously injure a player one day. He comes flying out for the ball at any opportunity, usually knees up and trying to punch it and gets nowhere near

[HaydnNUFC]

Felt really proud seeing the Gallowgate at 0-4 today. SJP has been class since Howe come in.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Was a weird game. 4-0 felt a bit flattering to City but you could also tell they were a class above at the same time.

 

A truly obvious difference between the sides was composure. We actually built really decent positions on 5/6 occasions but just seemed to always pick the worst option when in their box.

[Tyne81]

Raging. Felt we done alright 1st half but shitty luck and useless defense mishaps cost us. The penalty shout is borderline obscene. Did it actually go to VAR? If not then why not? If so then the most blatant penalty on record. Commentators, who usually hate us, screamed penalty. Pundits at half time did too but quickly glossed over it. All feels like a fix up after the previous games. 

[The Prophet]

5 minutes ago, Tyne81 said:

Raging. Felt we done alright 1st half but shitty luck and useless defense mishaps cost us. The penalty shout is borderline obscene. Did it actually go to VAR? If not then why not? If so then the most blatant penalty on record. Commentators, who usually hate us, screamed penalty. Pundits at half time did too but quickly glossed over it. All feels like a fix up after the previous games. 

 

"Cancelo was in possession of the ball" is the nonsensical party line.

[TenkoDaLuz]

Frustrating.

 

All few games I commit to see from NUFC, they end up losing them all.