Sven Botman

[Gallowgate Toon]

His issues seem mental to me. He seems quite flappy when he was ice cold before. 

 

Maybe a lack of confidence in his body but getting rolled and subsequently doing nothing to stop Jackson was a sad sight.

[duo]

1 minute ago, Big Geordie said:

Pish tonight and not for the first time. May need a spell on the bench.

Nah he needs to keep playing to find his form.  We all know there's a player there - I just hope he's not carrying an injury.

[nemtizz]

Why would Howe be playing him if he hasn’t fully recovered? He’s come back into a team lacking confidence and has been shite. 

 

I’d like to see Lascelles back in but no way Howe is dropping anyone that already has so much credit in the bank.  

 

 

Edited March 11, 2024 by nemtizz

[The Prophet]

He's had a couple of shockers of late, but he'll be fine. 

 

The problem has been that him and Burn have been so exposed at times.

[Kid Icarus]

I put a lot of his weaknesses down to Dubravka. Might sound ridiculous but the whole point of having a player like Botman is that you have a sweeper keeper, any slow player that's part of a high line will be exposed without one.

 

Having said that he was especially poor tonight.

[Big Geordie]

6 minutes ago, duo said:

Nah he needs to keep playing to find his form.  We all know there's a player there - I just hope he's not carrying an injury.

 

Some of the local hacks reckon he hasn't really recovered from the injury he was out so long with, last year. Has Howe and the medical team brought him back too early?

[Nine]

It isn’t the first time he’s been done by an athletic forward, if Botman has a weakness it’s physical.. he’s not elite level quick or agile. Its not a massive problem but it will see him occasionally struggle against the more the physically gifted attacking players in this league.

 

 

Edited March 11, 2024 by Nine

[Shadow Puppets]

1 hour ago, Aiston said:

 

Just waiting until the season ends and it's announced he's out for 4 month for an operation on his knee and he's been playing with ACL damage....or something. Another medical team failure

 

It’s not a medical team failure. He had a scan 2 weeks ago at the Dutch specialist that confirmed everything looks fine.

 

My personal opinion, and it’s just guesswork, is that he is playing within himself… tentative due to worry of it happening again. He’s had some really poor performances in the last few weeks, but you don’t become a poor player overnight for no reason.

[Shadow Puppets]

43 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

 

Some of the local hacks reckon he hasn't really recovered from the injury he was out so long with, last year. Has Howe and the medical team brought him back too early?

No. My source on that is, well, as close to the horses mouth as you can get really. All his scans are absolutely fine.

 

i think it’s a mentality problem.

[duo]

28 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

No. My source on that is, well, as close to the horses mouth as you can get really. All his scans are absolutely fine.

 

i think it’s a mentality problem.

As well as being out for so long he has been jettisoned into a squad playing badly and lacking confidence. Our back 4 is getting zero protection - our midfield is none existent. 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Think he's mostly been poor since coming back

 

Don't doubt no Pope is a factor but he just looks clumsy and lacking in confidence

[The College Dropout]

His lack of pace is a big problem without Pope. 
 

 

[80]

2 hours ago, Rod said:

I'm sick of goals we have conceded by the ball going between his legs or worse him deflecting the ball into the net.  It's got to be at least six goals that were similar.  Oh, and he normally has his arms tucked nicely behind his back.  That fecking helped Sven. 

I'm not holding it against Sven, but this does seem to be true for our whole back line.

 

I dunno, do we concede more than other teams between our defenders legs? I might just be noticing it because they're our players. Or is it a defensive technique issue?

1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

It’s not a medical team failure. He had a scan 2 weeks ago at the Dutch specialist that confirmed everything looks fine.

 

My personal opinion, and it’s just guesswork, is that he is playing within himself… tentative due to worry of it happening again. He’s had some really poor performances in the last few weeks, but you don’t become a poor player overnight for no reason.

If it's not fitness, then yeah I guess we have to really help him get his head straight. He seems like a lovely guy, but I've never really got the Robocop/Der Kaiser vibes off him - he seems like quite an introvert at heart. Not the first into a punch-up.

[RobS]

this cunts knee exploded then?

[huss9]

really casual play for the second goal. arms behind is back and just flicks his head at the ball.

ffs man, have your arms in a natural position and at least he'd have been able to get a more aggressive header in.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, huss9 said:

really casual play for the second goal. arms behind is back and just flicks his head at the ball.

ffs man, have your arms in a natural position and at least he'd have been able to get a more aggressive header in.

 

Aye he'd have taken the net off with his header if his arms were natural. 

[duo]

A reminder if needed how good this lad is....he'll be back !!

 

 

[JonBez comesock]

Injured ? 6 months 

 

pizza /rob 

 

no idea if true 

[The Prophet]

 

[BeloEmre]

Out for 6-9 months.

[Guest]

I am going to be fucking sick 

[Dokko]

Just got to laugh at this point. 

[LFEE]

Was screaming for him to come off before the corner. Of course it him who then proceeds to jump to head the ball away and land on it again.

 

Love the players commitment to the cause but they need to be a bit smarter and get the trainers straight on when needed.

[Lush Vlad]

Fucking hell. Same knee, I take it?! 
 

I know they have more data than us and a lot more expertise. They probably want a player of that age to avoid an op. But that is terrible management.
 

Could have been back and had a full pre-season. Now he’ll be back at the end of 2024 if we’re lucky and the need for a centre back has just got even greater. 
 

Seemed like when he came back it was clearly still ailing him. So a strange call all round. 

[Scoot]

Unbelievable. Simply Unbelievable at this point.