geordie_b Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 *we're Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 How surprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: What an absolute shit show. Got millions and we can't buy anyone. Got Shithot players and they're always injured. This again is another example of the financial rules being a load of shit, we will now be expected to continue to struggle on missing our best players because we can't afford to replace them, or have to sacrifice money in other positions that need strengthening to replace Botman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 I don't know anything about Botman's knee injury or knee injuries at all, but I know I need to allocate blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 I give up… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 6-9 months ffs, we are absolutely cursed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 As some of you know, I’m relatively well connected to Sven and his family… they didn’t see this coming at all. All scans in recent months have shown no need for surgery. He had one in Holland around 3 weeks ago that showed no damage and no need for surgery. Obviously the way he landed on Saturday has caused something significant to change, though. And for those saying the medical staff and manager are to blame… well you’re fundamentally 100% incorrect, but you do you. Sven has seen multiple specialists both in the UK and the Netherlands, and has been reassured from every meeting until this point that surgery wasn't necessary. So if you’re desperate to blame someone, blame the specialists for not promoting the idea of surgery. It has had absolutely nothing to do with Howe and his team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, GeordieT said: Absolutely criminal from the medical team. Verging on professional negligence. See my post above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Him playing on with the same/similar injury has almost certainly led to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I’d imagine he had damaged his ACL and this is a rupture/them going with a graft to replace the damaged/snapped ligament. Plenty of players comeback from an ACL these days. Not overly worried about that. It’s not like he’s had the op and then the graft has gone and then two ops. Which I’m told is the big worry when that happens. Still massively pissed off at how badly we have managed the injury and feel sorry for him on a personal level. WE have managed the injury based on multiple 3rd party specialists advice. Not entirely sure what else people want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: See my post above. sadly your post will be ignored quickly enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: As some of you know, I’m relatively well connected to Sven and his family… they didn’t see this coming at all. All scans in recent months have shown no need for surgery. He had one in Holland around 3 weeks ago that showed no damage and no need for surgery. Obviously the way he landed on Saturday has caused something significant to change, though. And for those saying the medical staff and manager are to blame… well you’re fundamentally 100% incorrect, but you do you. Sven has seen multiple specialists both in the UK and the Netherlands, and has been reassured from every meeting until this point that surgery wasn't necessary. So if you’re desperate to blame someone, blame the specialists for not promoting the idea of surgery. It has had absolutely nothing to do with Howe and his team. Cheers John Connor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: As some of you know, I’m relatively well connected to Sven and his family… they didn’t see this coming at all. All scans in recent months have shown no need for surgery. He had one in Holland around 3 weeks ago that showed no damage and no need for surgery. Obviously the way he landed on Saturday has caused something significant to change, though. And for those saying the medical staff and manager are to blame… well you’re fundamentally 100% incorrect, but you do you. Sven has seen multiple specialists both in the UK and the Netherlands, and has been reassured from every meeting until this point that surgery wasn't necessary. So if you’re desperate to blame someone, blame the specialists for not promoting the idea of surgery. It has had absolutely nothing to do with Howe and his team. literally thick comments from people completely not involved at all blaming the medical staff/ Eddie etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 All these injuries are just bad luck lads, not incompetence at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: WE have managed the injury based on multiple 3rd party specialists advice. Not entirely sure what else people want. A scapegoat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 If we can see Botman hasn't been right in the way he's been playing last few months, then how can the medical/coaching staff not? Scapegoat though right lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 There’s suspicion that he was misdiagnosed and came back too early, because we all know he hasn’t looked right. Not good enough for the medical team, if true, obviously I wish him a speedy recovery, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: WE have managed the injury based on multiple 3rd party specialists advice. Not entirely sure what else people want. Was that before or after we misdiagnosed his injury and sent him back out to play with a damaged ACL and then made it a lot worse? I did mention in another post further back that I know they have far more data and knowledge than us. But that’s the same for every aspect of the club and it doesn’t stop fans voicing their concerns and opinions. He has comeback and clearly been feeling the effects of it and nowhere near right. Now he’s broken down again. I don’t think it’s just being smart after the event or in hindsight. It felt like at the time we handled it poorly, loads said as much and it’s been proven right to some degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 1 minute ago, Menace said: If we can see Botman hasn't been right in the way he's been playing last few months, then how can the medical/coaching staff not? Scapegoat though right lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Thank god he’s well known to be the slowest player on the planet so at least we don’t have to worry about a pace decrease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Fuck sake this season man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: As some of you know, I’m relatively well connected to Sven and his family… they didn’t see this coming at all. All scans in recent months have shown no need for surgery. He had one in Holland around 3 weeks ago that showed no damage and no need for surgery. Obviously the way he landed on Saturday has caused something significant to change, though. And for those saying the medical staff and manager are to blame… well you’re fundamentally 100% incorrect, but you do you. Sven has seen multiple specialists both in the UK and the Netherlands, and has been reassured from every meeting until this point that surgery wasn't necessary. So if you’re desperate to blame someone, blame the specialists for not promoting the idea of surgery. It has had absolutely nothing to do with Howe and his team. So what you're saying is, the club, and by club I mean specifically Eddie Howe, should've got better specialists? And Howe should be held personally responsible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 We’re absolutely demolishing the squad this season. I hope they bring in a 3rd party to look at our methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 Ah howay man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 20, 2024 Share Posted March 20, 2024 I’d definitely be stepping up any interest in Kelly from Bournemouth now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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