The Prophet Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Trensa said: Not at all, just common sense. A reflection on all this and on your intention in the transfer market. I think you've got the wrong profile of players to target. Bringing out players like DC or Botman is not easy, and if it's not easy it means it's too expensive. From my point of view I think that in this first stage of your new era you should opt for a profile of players with potential and a step below the top players in Europe. There are players with brutal potential in second-tier teams that are much more accessible and that would allow you to have a much more balanced squad than having, for example, a top centre-back and a top striker. Once you have a balanced squad is when, thanks to your new purchasing power, I would go for players in certain positions. I've noticed some of you desperate not to sign this or that player and signing him wouldn't make any difference if the environment isn't right. I think a three or four year project would be the best way to avoid despair. Nothing more, it has been interesting these days of debate here and I don't want to bother you any more. Good post, totally agree with the bit in bold. Edited January 26, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I kind of disagree. Go for the best you can, if you cant get, move on. You may end up with slightly lesser players but if you don't ask you don't get. Providing we've improved substantially by the end of the window wer'e good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 What doesn't sit quite right with that point is that the player himself wanted to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Heh, it's dead. They are not even getting a new CB in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I don’t care anymore. Next. Secure Bruno and Burn and move on to other positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 F*ck it. I'm going optimistic. Looking forward to a starting 11 that includes Joelinton, Guimares, Carlos, and Rogerio. Bring back the yellow second kits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 We'll go back in for him in the summer, but will have to be a lot less money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 SSN have been weird as fuck with this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I reckon Seville have seriously pi*ssed off Carlos to the extent that he will run his contract down and leave for nothing in 18 months. He has already refused to sign a new contract! Karma! ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If the journos are to be believed (and that's big if) then Sevilla was really waffling. They don't want to sell the player but they liked the idea of the money they could get. Things were also complicated by "agreeing personal terms" and who the hell knows what that meant. It certainly would have been better if Sevilla gave us a hard no as we got with Botman but the owners had to be doing their due diligence. The Guimaraes deal didn't come together in a day so we have to conclude that the journos had no knowledge of it. Who knows, while they post endless streams of speculation maybe the club are really getting things done. Let's hope this is the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: So what did they say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, BeloEmre said: So what did they say? That's its not happening. The only way this deal gets resolved is if we blow them out of the water IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) This is definitely one for the summer - let’s hope we can keep our league position and come back in for him then Edited January 26, 2022 by andyc35i Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Trensa said: Not at all, just common sense. A reflection on all this and on your intention in the transfer market. I think you've got the wrong profile of players to target. Bringing out players like DC or Botman is not easy, and if it's not easy it means it's too expensive. From my point of view I think that in this first stage of your new era you should opt for a profile of players with potential and a step below the top players in Europe. There are players with brutal potential in second-tier teams that are much more accessible and that would allow you to have a much more balanced squad than having, for example, a top centre-back and a top striker. Once you have a balanced squad is when, thanks to your new purchasing power, I would go for players in certain positions. I've noticed some of you desperate not to sign this or that player and signing him wouldn't make any difference if the environment isn't right. I think a three or four year project would be the best way to avoid despair. Nothing more, it has been interesting these days of debate here and I don't want to bother you any more. De acuerdo amigo. I think we should look at Everton as a great way to avoid obvious traps. They went out and paid some huge fees for players that looked like something on paper or were 'Premier League proven' without considering what the long-term viability of each player was or how they connected. It's still very early, and we've certainly had some knockbacks, but I'm pleased the two we've signed have been clear upgrades and fit into what our manager wants in one form or another. We've not, for example, gone and signed Sigurdsson, Klassen, and Rooney only to question how they fit together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, andyc35i said: This is definitely one for the summer - let’s hope we can keep our league position and come back in for him then Nah, let this one go, go for someone younger and better. He/they’ve had their chance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, HTT II said: Nah, let this one go, go for someone younger and better. He/they’ve had their chance! Aye, if we stay up, we wont be short of options in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGoneKid Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, HTT II said: Nah, let this one go, go for someone younger and better. He/they’ve had their chance! I really like him, but if he doesn't come this window I think that's his big chance gone. He'll have to see out his days on a slightly improved contract at Sevilla, that Monchi fella seems too stubborn to drop the price until he's too old to be of value anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, TRon said: I really like him, but if he doesn't come this window I think that's his big chance gone. He'll have to see out his days on a slightly improved contract at Sevilla, that Monchi fella seems too stubborn to drop the price until he's too old to be of value anyway. If we stay up I think we can do better, or rather get someone in of similar quality for a similar price range, but who is younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 See you in the summer then Amigo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Isn’t really an exclusive - he spoke to Mark Douglas anarl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: Isn’t really an exclusive - he spoke to Mark Douglas anarl. Also Monchi states we made the first offer a month ago. Shows our lot were actively trying to sort multiple deals before the window opened. Also shows why January is a tricky window to convince clubs to release their players in because they need to find replacements themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Talks began in December. The offer was respectable. Negotiations were handled in good faith. Ultimately they didn't feel it was the right time to sell. Worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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