More transfer rumours

[macphisto]

10 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Again, Fraser has improved massively under Howe, but he's really limited on the right. Having a genuine threat out on the right will not only add direct goal threat, but it'll mean the opposition can no longer double and sometimes triple up on ASM, which could also increase his output.

Does teams putting two/three men on ASM reflect well on Targett? Surely he should be one of the first players looking to capitalise? Maybe that's why we might be looking at other players like Lodi.

 

[Dr Jinx]

I think Targett is just fine for the role, but if this Lodi chap is that good and they don’t want anyone else getting in this summer they might make a move.. but I think if that was unlikely Howe would be more than happy with Targett.

 

You have to remember, someone else is also calling the shots transfer wise. Ashworth will be talking directly with the owners so he’ll have to try and match their aspirations too.

 

I have a feeling the sudden resurgence of the team has given them the confidence to make a go of it ahead of schedule?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

20 minutes ago, macphisto said:

Does teams putting two/three men on ASM reflect well on Targett? Surely he should be one of the first players looking to capitalise? Maybe that's why we might be looking at other players like Lodi.

 

Maybe, but then again it’s almost impossible to overlap ASM because you never know when or where he’s going. And you also have to be ready to defend in case he loses the ball. 
 

Interesting though, I honestly hadn’t thought about anything except just signing Targett ASAP. 

[Nine]

Would anyone be disappointed if we didn’t upgrade Wilson and instead filled the gap in between him and Wood? Perhaps a younger player that could learn from being around this squad for a season or two and step in for Wilson through injury or just for a tactically different approach? Not sure if Ekitike fits this bill as I think he should be playing week in week out if possible, but another player of that age with a lot of potential that could be fulfilled? Ideally we bring in a better/more reliable player than Wilson of course but I might not be suprised if we take the other route.

[Guest reefatoon]

3 minutes ago, Nine said:

Would anyone be disappointed if we didn’t upgrade Wilson and instead filled the gap in between him and Wood? Perhaps a younger player that could learn from being around this squad for a season or two and step in for Wilson through injury or just for a tactically different approach? Not sure if Ekitike fits this bill as I think he should be playing week in week out if possible, but another player of that age with a lot of potential that could be fulfilled? Ideally we bring in a better/more reliable player than Wilson of course but I might not be suprised if we take the other route.

 

We need a striker in who will consistently lead the line.

 

 

Edited April 27, 2022 by reefatoon

[Tsunami]

Desperately need to upgrade Wilson, made of glass.

[Guest HTT II]

We need a fully fit, mobile, athletic all-rounder CF and Wilson isn’t it! We will spend big on a CF, I expect us to put a big bid in for Nunez, whether we’ll get him is another matter…

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, Nine said:

Would anyone be disappointed if we didn’t upgrade Wilson and instead filled the gap in between him and Wood? Perhaps a younger player that could learn from being around this squad for a season or two and step in for Wilson through injury or just for a tactically different approach? Not sure if Ekitike fits this bill as I think he should be playing week in week out if possible, but another player of that age with a lot of potential that could be fulfilled? Ideally we bring in a better/more reliable player than Wilson of course but I might not be suprised if we take the other route.

Probably need to do both. 

[RodneyCisse]

Really like Wilson and listening to his podcast it sounds like a proper challenge from another CF would get him going.

[Manxst]

Just now, RodneyCisse said:

Really like Wilson and listening to his podcast it sounds like a proper challenge from another CF would get him going.

Don’t think he needs to get going- his attitude and application have never been in question. He just needs to stay injury free, which is obviously out of his hands and which looks unlikely to occur.

[Nine]

3 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Probably need to do both. 

Oh agreed, big ask over one window though. Ultimately it will obviously depend on which player is available for what..

[Dr Jinx]

You have to be cold when making the decisions Eddie Howe will have to make.. 

 

Can he keep Shelvey another year? Sure he can but let’s look at the situation, Bruno can do everything Shelvey can and then some..

 

Short passing ✅ 

Long passing ✅ 

Tackling ✅

Pressing ✅

 

Except he’s more progressive. And he has that sudden burst of pace to get in ahead of other players that Shelvey just never had to begin with. So that’s the dilemma, keep someone in the team when you have another player who can do all the same things, but better. Or drop him and bring someone in who can make an impact.

 

What about ASM, I think it’s been shown that Joelinton can be just as effective out wide.. he might not beat players in the same way as ASM but he’s capable of driving the ball forward and then plays a simple pass. ASM will rarely do this, (although he was better in 2nd half against Norwich)

 

Willock is probably worth a place in the side, but I sort of have a feeling of square pegs, round holes with all of our midfielders.. there’s no combination that looks totally balanced.

 

Longstaff is probably the worst of our options there but we also need players who aren’t going to kick up a fuss when not playing.. that’s definitely him. 

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

It’s definitely an interesting quandary to have.

 

To date, the message has been from the club that this will be a gradual rebuild, which lends support for players like Shelvey, Fraser, Schar etc continuing at the club for the next couple seasons as the squad redevelops.

 

However, the comments from Bruno’s agent suggest that the plan presented to prospective signings is far more ambitious and immediate i.e. targeting CL qualification. With the greatest of respect to the mentioned players, they’re not going to get you to that aim.

 

I would prefer to see a smaller number of signings this summer, but all of real starting quality. 

[HWTL]

There are always going to be better options than what we have and we aren't going to replace everyone.

 

It depends on where the club feels needs improvement right now and the rest will be done it time over a few windows.

 

The team needs young quality players so in a few seasons it will be at its peak as even the likes of Trips and Burn will be too old by the time this team is ready for a top 4 challenge, we need some that are ready now so we never need to worry about relegation again. 

 

I'd be more than happy with a steady increase on quality and youth over the next few years and some serious improvements on facilities and development.

[Lush Vlad]

56 minutes ago, reefatoon said:

 

We need a striker in who will consistently lead the line.

 

 

 

 

This, basically.  

 

Wood has shown he isn't good enough.  Despite helping steer us away from safety and doing some donkey work. 

 

Wilson has shown over his career he can't stay fit.  

 

I think it would be a real gamble if we went into next season without signing a senior striker for decent money.  

[SUPERTOON]

Most reports in the media suggest striker is the number one priority this summer, no chance we don’t get one imo.

[Nine]

9 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

 

However, the comments from Bruno’s agent suggest that the plan presented to prospective signings is far more ambitious and immediate i.e. targeting CL qualification. With the greatest of respect to the mentioned players, they’re not going to get you to that aim.

 

I would prefer to see a smaller number of signings this summer, but all of real starting quality. 

The thing is the standard of our squad right now is not even close to being enough to finish in a CL spot next season, it would take a mass turnover of players to achieve that goal.. far to many for one window. We also need to strengthen again on top of that for the demands of the extra European ties which are all against high quality teams to.

[macphisto]

4 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

I would prefer to see a smaller number of signings this summer, but all of real starting quality. 

100% agree about going for real quality. I know it doesn't apply to all players and you can get quality free transfers, etc. but I do think the graph below shows you where Everton have gone wrong. Buying a lot of £20 million players is false economy as you end up buying as many bad players as good ones or players who are not an improvement on what you already have. I'm not saying it's the only reason for Everton's struggles but it does partially explain the trouble they are in.

 

I'd much rather go for real quality over quantity.

 

 

[TRon]

2 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

50m euros on a left back. Wow.

 

Spend big on the right player, you only spend once.

[Rafalove]

1 hour ago, Nine said:

Would anyone be disappointed if we didn’t upgrade Wilson and instead filled the gap in between him and Wood? Perhaps a younger player that could learn from being around this squad for a season or two and step in for Wilson through injury or just for a tactically different approach? Not sure if Ekitike fits this bill as I think he should be playing week in week out if possible, but another player of that age with a lot of potential that could be fulfilled? Ideally we bring in a better/more reliable player than Wilson of course but I might not be suprised if we take the other route.

 

I wouldn’t be against this. None of the potential striker options available at the minute really excite me except perhaps Jesus.

[TRon]

30 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

It’s definitely an interesting quandary to have.

 

To date, the message has been from the club that this will be a gradual rebuild, which lends support for players like Shelvey, Fraser, Schar etc continuing at the club for the next couple seasons as the squad redevelops.

 

However, the comments from Bruno’s agent suggest that the plan presented to prospective signings is far more ambitious and immediate i.e. targeting CL qualification. With the greatest of respect to the mentioned players, they’re not going to get you to that aim.

 

I would prefer to see a smaller number of signings this summer, but all of real starting quality. 

 

This is the way to go. For those talking of replacing Wilson, we don't need a replacement, we need someone to to compete for the main striker role. Sell Wood and buy the next Callum Wilson and let those two fight it out who gets the shirt. Wood has served his purpose, he can leave at the end of the season with our blessing.

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, Rafalove said:

 

I wouldn’t be against this. None of the potential striker options available at the minute really excite me except perhaps Jesus.

Jesus, he the man! 

[Geordie Ahmed]

As much as I like Targett and I do want us to sign him but if Lodi is possible then that would be some signing, he's a level or two above Targett

[Yorkie]

24 minutes ago, macphisto said:

100% agree about going for real quality. I know it doesn't apply to all players and you can get quality free transfers, etc. but I do think the graph below shows you where Everton have gone wrong. Buying a lot of £20 million players is false economy as you end up buying as many bad players as good ones or players who are not an improvement on what you already have. I'm not saying it's the only reason for Everton's struggles but it does partially explain the trouble they are in.

 

I'd much rather go for real quality over quantity.

 

 

 

To bear in mind anyone, who gets riled up by accusations about our spending. It guarantees nowt. Takes great management to maximise budgets. 

[Shak]

Seeing the Lodi link and remembering that Digne was supposedly our first choice at LB in January, I do wonder if eventually Howe sees us playing three at the back. Might be the hesitancy on Targett, he's been pretty solid on the ball since joining but I don't know if he has enough about him to play wing back.

 

Trippier and Lodi would be a very interesting wing back duo.