lovejoy Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, Mountain said: I agree but it's not always mutually exclusive. Look at Donny, he's been uninspiring like usual at Everton. first 'United' and now 'Donny', is this Froggy in disguise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, Whitley mag said: Very wise move not paying Lingard daft money in my opinion. On the basis of half a decent season at West Ham it would be crazy. Yes there’s no fee involved but in terms of the wage structure it would cause huge problems at an early stage going forward making him the benchmark. yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Mountain said: He did but he's had another crap season at united. Maybe Wet Spam it was a freak purple patch. Ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, Dr Venkman said: Ban. Permanent IP I'd say, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Bonk said: I suppose he's shown his max potential with his purple patch at them Hammers and he genuinely seems a decent pro, has ability and can't begrudge him wanting a final payday, but not that high an earner. It's unwarranted. That's it basically. I actually quite liked him as a player at one time, but I think he had long enough to stand out at Man U where they had some pretty tasty forwards by most people's standards. He was there alongside Rashford and Martial, not exactly poor quality players to be rubbing shoulders with, and they had decent managers too. He's a good player, just don't think he should be asking for 150k a week when he couldn't hold a place down in an underperforming Man U team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Nine said: I got some shit on here a while back because I said we wouldnt be pushing our wage structure very far past around our current top earner in Bruno at 120/130k, I still think this will be the case. As you said it could be pushed a bit further for the right player but Howe is very big on squad harmony and the unity of this club that hes carefully moulded since he came in.. this is why I just cant see players coming in on close to 200k a week. Step by step we will get to that number with new contracts for our current core along the way, possibly next summer? ”Got some shit” At first you said something like we won’t offer more than 120k/week and then after that it was a bit of backtracking saying “not much higher” or similar. Im still certain that we will offer 150k or even slightly more IF the right opportunity arises and that’s what is needed. We will try to keep the wages down as well as possible, but that’s just the aim imo. We will never offer the likes of Lingard 150k+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I doubt many teams will be rushing to take Lingard at a straight 150k a week, so ask to be kept in the loop and see how it plays out. The lack of a fee may be a big plus factor, or it may not, none of us really knows. I suspect our form with Wood up front, Fraser on one side, and Bruno on the bench was even better than West Ham's was during the Lingard purple patch, so there is also the chance that the Lingard ship has sailed. He would have been useful in January for sure, but we probably now need someone better and have more than one month to find him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ikon said: ”Got some shit” At first you said something like we won’t offer more than 120k/week and then after that it was a bit of backtracking saying “not much higher” or similar. Im still certain that we will offer 150k or even slightly more IF the right opportunity arises and that’s what is needed. We will try to keep the wages down as well as possible, but that’s just the aim imo. We will never offer the likes of Lingard 150k+. To be fair, I did like - personal insults thrown around and everything Its all good though And like I just said, I think 120/130 will be the top end of what we offer this summer BUT theres always a chance we go higher for the right player. Not sure how thats back tracking but okay. Agree on Lingard, hes not worth that at all. Edited May 11, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, McCormick said: I think that’s wishful thinking, even Eddie has said similar. All the talk seems to be about sustainable growth, playing within Ffp regulations, augmenting a modest budget with player sales etc. I guess it’s slightly paradoxical if you take their statements about competing for the league title in 5 years at face value (naïveté on their part perhaps?). You say journalists know nothing but I think it’s been established that this administration isn’t particularly great at keeping their cards close to their chests. Just my opinion again, but I can’t see us spending the huge amounts you’re suggesting. Looking forward to being proven massively wrong! What else are they meant to say? IMO if we sign a 40-60m attacker they will be our highest earner around the 120-175k mark. I definitely believe we’ve enquired for Coutinho and Nunez and that’s what they would expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: What else are they meant to say? IMO if we sign a 40-60m attacker they will be our highest earner around the 120-175k mark. I definitely believe we’ve enquired for Coutinho and Nunez and that’s what they would expect. Coutinho is on 400k+ pw at Barca iirc, Villa are probably paying around half of that right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nine said: To be fair, I did like - personal insults thrown around and everything Its all good though And like I just said, I think 120/130 will be the top end of what we offer this summer BUT theres always a chance we go higher for the right player. Not sure how thats back tracking but okay. Agree on Lingard, hes not worth that at all. Not what you said in the beginning back then though But yeah, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nine said: Coutinho is on 400k+ pw at Barca iirc, Villa are probably paying around half of that right now. Villa are paying 125k at the moment towards his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Wages won't be an issue for us with the right player. We might even pay 300k a week or 500k if it was Haaland, but we aren't at that stage yet. It will take another couple of seasons before we are in a position to attract the very best, but I still think we will pay plenty high enough wages to attract some CL talent from around the world. Bruno standard is what we'll be looking for in the summer, however many signings we make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nine said: Coutinho is on 400k+ pw at Barca iirc, Villa are probably paying around half of that right now. That's the sort of business which has led to the decline of Barca tbh. I mean he's a cracking player, but 400k/week? I don't think Villa will want to keep him at even half of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Manxst said: Villa are paying 125k at the moment towards his wages. Thats a big come down from what hes on at Barca, would be a difficult one imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, TRon said: That's the sort of business which has led to the decline of Barca tbh. I mean he's a cracking player, but 400k/week? I don't think Villa will want to keep him at even half of that. Thats steep even taking into account how high his stock was after leaving Liverpool, insane money to have sat on your bench for 2+ seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Roma looking for £67.5 million for Tammy Abraham. So many clubs flopped when it came to Tammy man, Chelsea included by the way. Clubs missing out on him for £36 million last year was tragic. He wanted to go to Arsenal last summer apparently and they bottled it. They are apparently considering him for this summer now. In hindsight Chelsea letting both Tammy and Tomori leave last summer was so poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Roma looking for £67.5 million for Tammy Abraham. So many clubs flopped when it came to Tammy man, Chelsea included by the way. Clubs missing out on him for £36 million last year was tragic. He wanted to go to Arsenal last summer apparently and they bottled it. They are apparently considering him for this summer now. In hindsight Chelsea letting both Tammy and Tomori leave last summer was so poor. Did you see that header he scored at the weekend? My god it was a thing of beauty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) Tammy is my dream signing this summer, £67m for him seems doable as well. Other clubs will be ahead of us in that race though and he seems to love playing for Jose so maybe he wont even leave this year. Edited May 11, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Expect this transfer window to be unexpected Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRon said: Did you see that header he scored at the weekend? My god it was a thing of beauty. The man is such a talented striker man. Monster header that was. It's so ironic because he fits Tuchel's approach so much more than Lukaku does when you think about it, as he has the work rate and endless energy required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nine said: Tammy is my dream signing this summer, £67m for him seems doable as well. Other clubs will be ahead of us in that race though, he seems to love playing for Jose so maybe he wont even leave this year. Roma are paying him £115k pw, so I’d expect him to want a rise to move. Would he be worth upsetting the dressing room, like you suggest it might? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Not a fan of Tammy me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Roma are paying him £115k pw, so I’d expect him to want a rise to move. Would he be worth upsetting the dressing room, like you suggest it might? I think hes one of the few players within our reach this summer that would be worth it, Howe would also be judging each case on individual character as much as ability.. never heard anything bad about Tammy so im sure he'd fit in well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nine said: Tammy is my dream signing this summer, £67m for him seems doable as well. Other clubs will be ahead of us in that race though, he seems to love playing for Jose so maybe he wont even leave this year. Jose Mourinho has actually come out and said that all Tammy has to do is say that he wants to return to England and he will let him leave, because Tammy placed so much faith in him by leaving home, and his country of birth and trusted him when joining Roma. And so it won't be that difficult a move if the price for him is met. I think the problem is going to be the calibre of clubs that will be looking at him now as he has been incredible at Roma, and is still only 24 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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