The Prophet Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I was bored shitless last week and gave it a go. I felt filthy for giving Wraith a view though, plus anything interesting is posted on Twitter anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: It will only work once though if we spend £150 million and all the reports/ reporters have been told the budget is/was £80-£90 million They can’t play the same trick again in regards to a budget (as everyone will point to this window) and say we’ve heard it all before. We will know for sure soon anyway , it all promises to be an exciting season for a number of clubs , definitely more competitive top half They did similar in January. Personally, I don't think we'll be miles over that figure, but I also don't think it's set in stone. For example, Ekitike and someone like Harrison or Sarr would cost circa £50 million, but if they could be smart and get Broja on loan for a season, they will. I think they're looking to get value for money wherever they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 same narrative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Maybe they mean 80m in terms of contribution to FFP? Edit: this isn't a serious post. I don't actually care how much we spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Sa1tY said: Yea are they the same rules that Man City treat with contempt go to court defeat any and all, this is the real world where money talks, as I say my opinion and every thing I have seen of other nations state owed clubs they basically do what they want. That was a different time and you can’t do that now, everybody is saying this year the ffp is serious and “finally has teeth” - direct quote from Chelsea chairman I think it was. People need to manage their expectations and not be ridiculous with what they think will come in. The clubs already said several times what they can spend and what they’re going to spend yet people on here choose not to hear them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Gawalls said: That was a different time and you can’t do that now, everybody is saying this year the ffp is serious and “finally has teeth” - direct quote from Chelsea chairman I think it was. People need to manage their expectations and not be ridiculous with what they think will come in. The clubs already said several times what they can spend and what they’re going to spend yet people on here choose not to hear them. Yeah I personally think the talk of budgets is probably accurate. I think there’s maybe a slight leeway but don’t think we’ll spend much more than what’s been stated by at least 4 journalists now. Why else would we be focussing on a loan signing but like you say people choose not to listen. It started off with people saying Edwards is talking shit he’s a trolll & negative and how would he know and now it’s the owners are trying to mind trick everyone. Maybe just maybe their is actually a budget around £90m Edited July 3, 2022 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sa1tY Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gawalls said: That was a different time and you can’t do that now, everybody is saying this year the ffp is serious and “finally has teeth” - direct quote from Chelsea chairman I think it was. People need to manage their expectations and not be ridiculous with what they think will come in. The clubs already said several times what they can spend and what they’re going to spend yet people on here choose not to hear them. Has it though did Man City and PSG get stuff overturned lastseason, I think the more sponsors they get the bigger the spend, Saudis are not here for shits and giggles, they can through two or three million at individual golfers then what ever they have to spend will be done, in my opinion obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwclark2342 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I think we are building the correct way. Budget or not. We are getting players that have potential to get better and seem to have great character. The last thing I want at United is players who consider themselves bigger than the club. Howe has shown he can help players develop. We will not be able to get the top top players until we are in Europe or spend stupid money on fees and wages. I love our business so far. Bring in some of the current players we are linked with and this transfer window will be huge success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 The FFP stuff is real, and needs to be take seriously. The club definitely seem to be approaching it that way. I think you will see two more signings. One a RW/right sided forward at around £30-40m mark, then a loan striker, potentially with an option/obligation to buy. By next summer the club will have a new front of shirt sponsor, and likely a who bunch of other new sponsorships. Especially if we have a strong league showing and get ourselves some form of European football, even it's it's the Conference League. Even if all that comes off I'd still say the budget goes up steadily, rather than shooting up. Like maybe next summer it's £120-150m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sa1tY said: Has it though did Man City and PSG get stuff overturned lastseason, I think the more sponsors they get the bigger the spend, Saudis are not here for shits and giggles, they can through two or three million at individual golfers then what ever they have to spend will be done, in my opinion obviously. Can’t believe the premier league didn’t prevent them from paying the golfers!! wtf has that to do with ffp? You still choose not to listen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: The FFP stuff is real, and needs to be take seriously. The club definitely seem to be approaching it that way. I think you will see two more signings. One a RW/right sided forward at around £30-40m mark, then a loan striker, potentially with an option/obligation to buy. By next summer the club will have a new front of shirt sponsor, and likely a who bunch of other new sponsorships. Especially if we have a strong league showing and get ourselves some form of European football, even it's it's the Conference League. Even if all that comes off I'd still say the budget goes up steadily, rather than shooting up. Like maybe next summer it's £120-150m And reduce the wage bill at the same time - we seriously need to ship some out. Edited July 3, 2022 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Ah man, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Is that a recent quote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sa1tY said: Saudi payed over a billion dollars/pounds to Qatar for compensation in the piracy wrangle just so they could own Newcastle, I don't think there will be a budget as such. Of course there won't be and if the right player becomes available and a deal can be done, then it will happen. Honestly don't understand why so many on here take notice of the reporters (especially the ones who cover us) as they won't have a clue what the budget is. The owners are not going to tell them what the real budget is, due to the probability of prices being increased. Edited July 3, 2022 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Don't do this to us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 hours ago, HTT II said: I hope not he’s easily one of the best posters on here! Wasn't he against the Saudi deal?, if so that maybe the reason. Fair enough if it was and he feels so strongly about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Is that a recent quote? From the internationals a couple of weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, gdm said: Yeah I personally think the talk of budgets is probably accurate. I think there’s maybe a slight leeway but don’t think we’ll spend much more than what’s been stated by at least 4 journalists now. Why else would we be focussing on a loan signing but like you say people choose not to listen. It started off with people saying Edwards is talking shit he’s a trolll & negative and how would he know and now it’s the owners are trying to mind trick everyone. Maybe just maybe their is actually a budget around £90m To be fair Edwards was talking shit. He got the budget wrong in January and has already revised his figure once during this particular transfer window (he originally stated £50 million). The journos are definetly being briefed, just like they were with the £50 million line in January. It could be genuine info, but it wouldn't be the first time the club have leaked info to serve a purpose. I'm not too fussed how much we spend as long as the quality is there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Wasn't he against the Saudi deal?, if so that maybe the reason. Fair enough if it was and he feels so strongly about it. I dunno about that like, I personally am kind of against having a state own us that’s why I’ll probably never get a season ticket or buy merch from the club, but on the pitch I’m a very happy chappy right now that my club, our club, is out of that cunt Ashley’s ownership, we can’t control who owns us. All I know is Mandoon, who I’ve met is a top lad, a fantastic poster, very knowledgeable and is a scout so his posts are always interesting regarding players I’ve not heard or seen play of as he obviously does his research, that and he himself is a good player and a handsome bastard to boot. Edited July 3, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Broja and Lingard would be underwhelming. That just shows how the expectation has changed though. Broja seems like he could be a smart signing on loan or otherwise. Just not as sexy as most we have been linked with. We desperately need a CM leader in the mold of tripps. Doesn't matter if they are an AM/DM/CM. Leadership and stepping up is big games is what we are missing there imo. Bruno and Joe are great but I don't see either as natural leaders. Willock and Longstaff need someone to really learn from. If we can get solid additions at RW and upfront without spending too much I would go all out for a captain in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bompeter Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Bruno appears to me to be very much a natural leader and someone who thrives as the emotional focal point of a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Fair enough being under a budget but struggle to see why we are spending 10? Million on a keeper and 30 odd on a centre half...I'd say there was at least 2 or mebbes 3 positions I'd rather have spent the cash than them 2 positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 The ownership and Eddie Howe keep telling everyone things will be done gradually this summer, and they would look at players on a free and loans in order to mitigate the FFP for now. No idea why people still refuse to accept this, and imagine it's some ruse to keep prices down. Think folks are just going to end up frustrating themselves. There are going to be a lot of clubs towards the end of the window making players available on loan to try and get their squads in order, just like we will be doing, and I'm sure that will be explored fully, as there will be good players to be had. Similar to how Arsenal were able to get Odegaard on loan from Real, before buying him outright the following summer. There'll be decent players to pick from. Having said all that I do think there will be some decent money spent on that right wing position as they seem to really be after someone at a high level to play there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Even if we spend 100 million. Doesn't this get spread over possibly 5 years so we are actually affecting FFP by 20 million. Or am I totally out of the picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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