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Mazzy

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With Darlow and Dubravka potentially leaving and Woodman possibly going out on loan again. Assuming we sign a new #1 Keeper, would Ben Foster be a decent free signing for us? 

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4 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

With Darlow and Dubravka potentially leaving and Woodman possibly going out on loan again. Assuming we sign a new #1 Keeper, would Ben Foster be a decent free signing for us? 


Krul or Forster to tick off one of the Academy product boxes for European qualification.

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HaydnNUFC

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2 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Diogo Costa please. If we replace Dubravka.

 

 

 

 

Good shout, looked him up after you mentioned him a couple of days ago. Has had a great season and has broken into the Portugal national side, only 22. A lot of good keepers come from that league too, Ederson, Sá, Patricio. 

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22 minutes ago, Mountain said:

 

I agree.

 

Phillips isn't some amazing talent, he's an above average CDM.

 

Plenty of those around for 1/3 of his price.

You pay a premium for a player who is a known quantity though.

 

I'm a fan of Phillips but let's assume he is just above average. Anyone we bring in from abroad at <£10m is going to be a risk, will they adapt to the PL, will they need 6+ months to get used to the pace of the game, how will they settle in England etc. Wheras with Phillips we can just slot him right in there next to Bruno and you know exactly what he is going to do and exactly what his floor is. Obviously we're then hoping that Howe can work a little bit of magic on him too.

 

Give me him over any sub-£10m DM from elsewhere and I'd be happy.

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2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:


Krul or Forster to tick off one of the Academy product boxes for European qualification.

 

We've got Gillespie for that.

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6 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

You pay a premium for a player who is a known quantity though.

 

I'm a fan of Phillips but let's assume he is just above average. Anyone we bring in from abroad at <£10m is going to be a risk, will they adapt to the PL, will they need 6+ months to get used to the pace of the game, how will they settle in England etc. Wheras with Phillips we can just slot him right in there next to Bruno and you know exactly what he is going to do and exactly what his floor is. Obviously we're then hoping that Howe can work a little bit of magic on him too.

 

Give me him over any sub-£10m DM from elsewhere and I'd be happy.

 

If we are going to realistically be challenging for Champions League places within 5 years, I think we need to spend money on players that will be Champions League quality (and above) within 5 years. Players with a huge up side.

I personally like being linked with the likes of Badiashille and Ekitike, etc

They are not there yet, but have huge HUGE upside. 

 

Yes, Phillips, Tarkowski et al are known, but for me they are stop gap signings. The way that Wood, Targett, Burn etc are. Yes, these players play a very important short term role, but will not be relevant in mid to long term. 

 

If I had the choice between mid-table with hot youngsters with huge potential, or mid-table with "known quantity", I would take former

 

 

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Phillips would be a Trippier signing not a Tarkowski, Burn etc. He is a full international player with a much higher value. People here are strange sometimes..

 

 

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9 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Phillips would be a Trippier signing not a Tarkowski, Burn etc. He is a full international player with a much higher value. People here are strange sometimes..

 

 

 

 

Imagine this time last year saying meh to Phillips ?

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The main argument against Phillips is how much should we be paying for a DM, when our defence is already pretty good and we struggle for goals. Phillips' ability at that role is not the question.

 

If the kitty is easily big enough to cover the attacking upgrades we need, then yes, by all means go for him. If its either/or, then I don't think DM is our biggest problem. Unless there is some relegation clause magic involved, Phillips will cost very good overseas AM money.

 

You could argue that a better destroyer would get us more possession and more possession would lead to more goals, but I don't think the creativity is there just yet. It will be a bridge we have to cross though. We beat all those teams on that run by them letting us counter attack them. As we get established as a top half side, the opposition will set up differently and we'll have to take the game to them.

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18 minutes ago, arnonel said:

 

If we are going to realistically be challenging for Champions League places within 5 years, I think we need to spend money on players that will be Champions League quality (and above) within 5 years. Players with a huge up side.

I personally like being linked with the likes of Badiashille and Ekitike, etc

They are not there yet, but have huge HUGE upside. 

 

Yes, Phillips, Tarkowski et al are known, but for me they are stop gap signings. The way that Wood, Targett, Burn etc are. Yes, these players play a very important short term role, but will not be relevant in mid to long term. 

 

If I had the choice between mid-table with hot youngsters with huge potential, or mid-table with "known quantity", I would take former

 

 

 

Who is this young midfielder with huge potensial you would have taken over Phillips?

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Just now, gjohnson said:

Around the same time everyone outside of Leeds was saying "eh, who's he, how's he got a call up?"

 

If they didn't know Phillips was quality then.. that's their probs

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Philips would be a genuinely transformational signing and absolutely perfect for what we need. It’s weird that there are people on here that aren’t celebrating the prospect of possibly him and DCL playing for us.

 

When we were linked with Ward-Prowse there were a few saying he wasn’t good enough for us as well(!). Different opinions and all that but I do find it quite bizarre.
 

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Philips is definitely one I'd be hugely impressed if we signed him. He's not a stop gap, he's still young, he can grow and evolve and he was a huge part of the England team that got to the final. 

 

Would I take him over Paqueta? Probably not but that could just be that I feel Philips is more similar to Bruno and we need a player like Paqueta in our squad. Philips, Paqueta and Bruno would be an unbelievable midfield 3.

 

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Apparently another striker that is on our list is one of my favourite current Super Eagles that finally had a break out season in Germany, getting Union Berlin into Europe. Ex Liverpool striker Taiwo Awoniyi, wo never made an appearance for them as he didn't meet work permit requirements when he was younger.

 

He has drawn comparisons to Super Eagle legend Rashidi Yekini, but also reminds me a bit of Premier League legend Aiyegbeni Yakubu. He's really powerful and is a modern striker with a really well rounded game. Fantastic character and incredible work ethic and dedication to his game.

 

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/who-is-taiwo-awoniyi-ex-liverpool-striker-union-berlin-nigeria-19470

 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, arnonel said:

 

If we are going to realistically be challenging for Champions League places within 5 years, I think we need to spend money on players that will be Champions League quality (and above) within 5 years. Players with a huge up side.

I personally like being linked with the likes of Badiashille and Ekitike, etc

They are not there yet, but have huge HUGE upside. 

 

Yes, Phillips, Tarkowski et al are known, but for me they are stop gap signings. The way that Wood, Targett, Burn etc are. Yes, these players play a very important short term role, but will not be relevant in mid to long term. 

 

If I had the choice between mid-table with hot youngsters with huge potential, or mid-table with "known quantity", I would take former

 

 

There's obviously a debate to be had about exactly how good he is, but comparing Kalvin Phillips to Tarkowski is mental.

 

You also have to balance out the high upside players with more reliable options. Badiashille and Ekitike could both flop, we've seen it plenty of times before, so you need to make sure a couple of signings are an almost nailed-on hit. Bruno was the former (which has paid off obviously), Targett and Burn were the latter. Wood is a bit of a funny one seeing as that was a move out of desperation rather than anything else, hopefully something we won't need to repeat in the summer, as much as I like the bloke.

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2 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Suarez on a free anyone? Just confirmed he'll be leaving in June.

 

He's 35 and scored 11 goals this season.

 

 

 

Nah, there’s enough contagious diseases going round at the moment without him chomping away at people 

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