More transfer rumours

[JP]

29 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

 

 

I'm very surprised that Barnes' Liverpool links haven't come up again. I swear Klopp was desperate to sign him 2 years ago?

 

 

 

 

Maybe the signing of Luis Diaz scuppered it.

 

[Coffee_Johnny]

Various press has us vying with Everton for Cornet (who I assumed was one of the three) and who is definitely on his way somewhere. 

[The College Dropout]

34 minutes ago, Rich said:

Aye, the amount of data and manpower we'll be putting to use to determine transfer valuations is way, way beyond most people's individual capacity to judge a fee and decide whether they're happy or sad with what we've offered or paid.

 

I don't think this is true.

 

Or at least. Even someone like myself could ballpark what clubs would sell X player for. Age, length of contract, selling league, Nationality, output.

 

We are towards the end of the window. I could tell you Maddison will go for a similar amount to Raphinha. I could also tell you Harrison would go for less but higher than £25m.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

I don't think this is true.

 

Or at least. Even someone like myself could ballpark what clubs would sell X player for. Age, length of contract, selling league, Nationality, output.

 

We are towards the end of the window. I could tell you Maddison will go for a similar amount to Raphinha. I could also tell you Harrison would go for less but higher than £25m.

Good points, the random element is unrealistic expectations from selling clubs (thinking Leicester, and Leeds it seems)—these/some of them will only be challenged at the 11th hour. Though, that late stage change will come sooner than 1st Sep (please God!) if they need funds or buy. 

[Rich]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't think this is true.

 

Or at least. Even someone like myself could ballpark what clubs would sell X player for. Age, length of contract, selling league, Nationality, output.

 

We are towards the end of the window. I could tell you Maddison will go for a similar amount to Raphinha. I could also tell you Harrison would go for less but higher than £25m.

 

Aye, but you're an absolute egomaniac and talk shite the majority of the time.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I don't think this is true.

 

Or at least. Even someone like myself could ballpark what clubs would sell X player for. Age, length of contract, selling league, Nationality, output.

 

We are towards the end of the window. I could tell you Maddison will go for a similar amount to Raphinha. I could also tell you Harrison would go for less but higher than £25m.

 

You'd be wrong about Maddison. It won't take £60m to get him if he's got two years left on his contract. £45m might do it I reckon.

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Coffee_Johnny said:

Good points, the random element is unrealistic expectations from selling clubs (thinking Leicester, and Leeds it seems)—these/some of them will only be challenged at the 11th hour. Though, that late stage change will come sooner than 1st Sep (please God!) if they need funds or buy. 

What's unrealistic?

 

Leeds just sold 2 players for £90m. One of them is the exact same age and plays in the same role as Harrison. Same number of years left on the contract too.

 

Again Leicester will have seen the Raphinha fee. I would use that as a MINIMUM if I was them.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

What's unrealistic?

 

Leeds just sold 2 players for £90m. One of them is the exact same age and plays in the same role as Harrison. Same number of years left on the contract too.

 

Again Leicester will have seen the Raphinha fee. I would use that as a MINIMUM if I was them.

Hard to say, but Harrison is not of the same quality as Raphina and definitely not of Phillips imo. With Leicester I am still reeling at the reminder they got £80m for Maguire.  

[snakzz]

Dont like the silence today. Hope its before the storm. 

[The College Dropout]

4 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

You'd be wrong about Maddison. It won't take £60m to get him if he's got two years left on his contract. £45m might do it I reckon.

Raphinha also had 2 years left on his contract.

 

In his advantage he's a regular Brazilian international and had a bit of a bidding war going on but the fees were similar.

 

But Maddison has better performances in the PL for longer time and has English tax. He's also presumably happy to stay where Raphinha definitely wanted to leave.

[Sean]

40 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Let's dream for a minute. Harrison wide right, Maddison tucked in behind Wilson. You're looking at an extra 25-30 goals a season there.

Ashley killed our ability to dream. It's a normal feeling for a fan but it feels so alien after the last 14 years.

 

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Sean

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

8 minutes ago, Rich said:

 

Aye, but you're an absolute egomaniac and talk shite the majority of the time.

 

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Raphinha also had 2 years left on his contract.

 

In his advantage he's a regular Brazilian international and had a bit of a bidding war going on but the fees were similar.

 

But Maddison has better performances in the PL for longer time and has English tax. He's also presumably happy to stay where Raphinha definitely wanted to leave.

 

 

I think that presumption is probably wide of the mark as our favourite local journalist used to say.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Hard to say, but Harrison is not of the same quality as Raphina and definitely not of Phillips imo. With Leicester I am still reeling at the reminder they got £80m for Maguire.  

Aye which is why the fee won't be £50m.

 

They only signed him permanently last season too for like £16-17m. I think double that will be taken seriously. £33m-£40m

[Ben]

I wonder if Howe has considered Ward-Prowse this summer with his fantastic dead ball delivery and our giant players.

[gbandit]

Just now, Ben said:

I wonder if Howe has considered Ward-Prowse this summer with his fantastic dead ball delivery and our giant players.

Thing is, Trippier is one of the best dead ball players in the league. I’m not sure Ward-Prowse is dynamic enough apart from his amazing dead ball ability. I’d not be in for him 

[McCormick]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Raphinha also had 2 years left on his contract.

 

In his advantage he's a regular Brazilian international and had a bit of a bidding war going on but the fees were similar.

 

But Maddison has better performances in the PL for longer time and has English tax. He's also presumably happy to stay where Raphinha definitely wanted to leave.

Yeah. Plus Barca/Chelsea/Arsenal are a massive enough step-up for the player to force a move. Leicester to Newcastle isn’t quite the same jump (and currently it’s a side-step/ arguably a step-down), especially when you consider that we won’t be going crazy with our wage offerings.

 

Still think this has legs but it’ll be closer to 60m before they consider accepting imo.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

 

I think that presumption is probably wide of the mark as our favourite local journalist used to say.

What makes you say that?

 

Also Richarlison went for £60m. Not a dissimilar profile (age, performance, years left on contract). 

 

If I was a Leicester fan I would expect a fee between Richarlison (always felt like a premium fee) & Raphinha circa £55m. Anything significantly less than Raphinha (sub £46m) would be a robbery and an excellent piece of business for us.

[LV]

16 minutes ago, snakzz said:

Dont like the silence today. Hope its before the storm. 

Not like you to be worried 

[SUPERTOON]

19 minutes ago, Ben said:

I wonder if Howe has considered Ward-Prowse this summer with his fantastic dead ball delivery and our giant players.

They want 70 million for him 

[The College Dropout]

22 minutes ago, Rich said:

 

Aye, but you're an absolute egomaniac and talk shite the majority of the time.

I never insult people on here. Can you please offer me the same courtesy?

 

23 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

You'd be wrong about Maddison. It won't take £60m to get him if he's got two years left on his contract. £45m might do it I reckon.

Also Richarlison had 2 years left on his contract.

 

Richarlison £60m. 25. 2 years left on his contract. Regular Brazilian international. 32 PL G/A last 2 seasons. 

Raphinha £50m. 25. 2 years left on his contract. Emerging Brazilian international. Bidding war. 31 PL G/A last 2 seasons.

Maddison. £45m??????. 25. 2 years left on his contract. English. 33 PL G/A last 2 seasons.

 

Are there other "behind the scenes" factors - sure. But I think most people in English football would be surprised if he was sold this summer for a penny less than £50m.

[54]

That Hope article is just a rehash to be honest, nothing new in it at all.

[buzza]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

I never insult people on here. Can you please offer me the same courtesy?

 

Also Richarlison had 2 years left on his contract.

 

Richarlison £60m. 25. 2 years left on his contract. Regular Brazilian international. 32 PL G/A last 2 seasons. 

Raphinha £50m. 25. 2 years left on his contract. Emerging Brazilian international. Bidding war. 31 PL G/A last 2 seasons.

Maddison. £45m??????. 25. 2 years left on his contract. English. 33 PL G/A last 2 seasons.

 

Are there other "behind the scenes" factors - sure. But I think most people in English football would be surprised if he was sold this summer for a penny less than £50m.

Aye, cant see him going for less than 50M, probably with a decent up fromt payment

[SUPERTOON]

Obviously I don’t know the ins and out of our finances, but if Maddison is genuinely interested, then I would personally push the boat out to get him, even if it meant paying a bit extra.

[Big River]

seems absolutely mental we're even discussing the possibility of signing someone like Maddison  what a time to be alive!