Away Toon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Why all these formations with 3 at the back and wingbacks? That's not how the manager plays and he's virtually never deviated away from 4 at the back. Rafa thought it was the best way for us to play as the CH's are all so fucking useless and 3 is better than 2, Bruce tried with 4 at the back but gave up as the fullbacks were crap, Howe if nothing else sticks to the way he wants to play even if I doesn't suit the players he can pick from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Uh oh 😂😂😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, Away Toon said: Why all these formations with 3 at the back and wingbacks? That's not how the manager plays and he's virtually never deviated away from 4 at the back. Rafa thought it was the best way for us to play as the CH's are all so fucking useless and 3 is better than 2, Bruce tried with 4 at the back but gave up as the fullbacks were crap, Howe if nothing else sticks to the way he wants to play even if I doesn't suit the players he can pick from. Sometime you have to alter things temporarily when availability changes. Without Manquillo or Lewis Left back is a gaping wound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: The look of someone preoccupied.. I'm being whooshed right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 0-1 written all over this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, madras said: Sometime you have to alter things temporarily when availability changes. Without Manquillo or Lewis Left back is a gaping wound. Howe has shown throughout his career that he is not flexible with team formations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: The look of someone preoccupied.. Fuuuuucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Away Toon said: Howe has shown throughout his career that he is not flexible with team formations. As a long term strategy but he's never changed formation for the odd game because avaiability isn't great ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Why all these formations with 3 at the back and wingbacks? That's not how the manager plays and he's virtually never deviated away from 4 at the back. Rafa thought it was the best way for us to play as the CH's are all so fucking useless and 3 is better than 2, Bruce tried with 4 at the back but gave up as the fullbacks were crap, Howe if nothing else sticks to the way he wants to play even if I doesn't suit the players he can pick from. I think you answered your own question there. Rafa tried to go 4-4-2 as well with these players, and we ended up pushing for goals, failing to score, then leaving ourselves open to getting countered. I I am all in favour of Howe's attacking philosophy in theory, but you need good players to make it work. Rafa's formation made our defenders look a lot better than they actually were IMO. We were really defending with a back 8 not a back 4. Also, until we have a proper left back available, I think it's risky to go with 4 at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Brazil flag tomorrow in the stands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, madras said: As a long term strategy but he's never changed formation for the odd game because avaiability isn't great ? He’s tried 3-4 different formations already on his time here, hasn’t he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Was looking at the training pictures earlier, Willock looks absolutely depressed in every single one of them. Wonder if he's been frozen out by teammates, something just not right there at all. He’s not in any of the photos, is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: The look of someone preoccupied.. Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 honestly some of the worst trolling ever on this board and an immediate ignore lister. Glad to see Lewis back training, was a shame his progression got hampered by injury under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) Dub Trip Lascelles Schar PD Sean Shelv Jow Wee-man Maxi Wood if PD can't start: Dub Krafth Lascelles Schar Trip Sean Shelv Jow Wee-man Maxi Wood Edited January 14, 2022 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, TRon said: I think you answered your own question there. Rafa tried to go 4-4-2 as well with these players, and we ended up pushing for goals, failing to score, then leaving ourselves open to getting countered. I I am all in favour of Howe's attacking philosophy in theory, but you need good players to make it work. Rafa's formation made our defenders look a lot better than they actually were IMO. We were really defending with a back 8 not a back 4. Also, until we have a proper left back available, I think it's risky to go with 4 at the back. I agree it's a risk, it's not just a LB we need it's also two good CB's. My point was that Howe is pretty inflexible with formations and tactics and he's virtually never played 3 at the back in his 10 year career so he's unlikely to do it now. He's rather play Richie there than a 3 with wingbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Howe has shown throughout his career that he is not flexible with team formations. We played 3 at the back against Brentford iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: Dub Trip Lascelles Schar PD Sean Shelv Jow Wee-man Maxi Wood if PD can't start: Dub Krafth Lascelles Schar Trip Sean Shelv Jow Wee-man Maxi Wood Just fuck off with wee man 😂 rather have miggy there or Murphy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Howe rarely deviates away from starting with a traditional back four, using it in 86.3 per cent of his matches as a top-flight manager. He is not afraid to switch things up as a shock tactic, as he did when beating Chelsea 3-0 at Stamford Bridge in an unfamiliar 3-4-3, but in general he prefers 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Away Toon said: Howe rarely deviates away from starting with a traditional back four, using it in 86.3 per cent of his matches as a top-flight manager. He is not afraid to switch things up as a shock tactic, as he did when beating Chelsea 3-0 at Stamford Bridge in an unfamiliar 3-4-3, but in general he prefers 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1. So he does change it if he feels its necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Had a message that both darlow and dubs are isolating apparently. This just a rumour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 It's hard to change things with a small shit squad.....he wasn't exactly over run with choices or options at Bournemouth or Burnley - the team more or less picks itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Had a message that both darlow and dubs are isolating apparently. This just a rumour? Haven’t seen anything but that would be disastrous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, neesy111 said: Had a message that both darlow and dubs are isolating apparently. This just a rumour? Howe said in his press conference that Dubs should be available, fingers crossed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 From .com: The publication of training ground photos this week showing only one goalkeeper - Mark Gillespie - led to speculation over the possible unavailability of Martin Dubravka, Karl Darlow and Freddie Woodman. There's of course no rule that every player featuring in training has to appear in the photos - while a measure of the current situation may come from tonight's U23 game if regular 'keeper Dan Langley fails to feature. Langley isn't in the U23 squad tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts