Bruno Guimarães

[Flip]

1 minute ago, JNK said:

I actually don't think Gabigol is that talented tbh, if he played in ANY other team he woudn't be so hyped. Also, he comes with the worst personality type too, for a player who coudn't start on the portuguese league he think's too much of himself.

Hmm... he’s very clearly talented. As for any team,he did well for Santos and was equally as hyped. His stint in Europe was a failure most probably because of attitude and not because of effort why I wouldn’t like him here. 
 

Anyways, back to Bruno. Has to start next match.

[Flip]

5 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Personally I think Bruno will start against Villa..

 I think Howe may want to see if JL can be a little more effective a bit further up the pitch. Reckon Bruno for JL in the middle and JL instead of Fraser but not quite playing the same role.

Aim to help team press higher up the pitch. 

start him ahead of Shelvey/Willock. No need to mobe Joelinton when he’s finally playing well for the team.

[Dr Venkman]

6 hours ago, Yorkie said:

It's a real conundrum trying to figure out where to put him. We've all become accustomed to Joe's strengths following his revival, meanwhile Willock is improving and presses really well and - in theory - is one of our best chances of a goal in a team that doesn't score much.

 

Of the three, Shelvey is the weakest performer but I feel like he's the only one in the squad who really plays that quarter-back role. If last night is anything to go by, you'd only be getting 75% out of Bruno by putting him there. 

 

Despite his contributions I am dying to see Shelvey upgraded upon, but I don't think Bruno is that upgrade. 

 

Really dunno, but it looks like the added competition is already making a difference to the existing centre-backs and centre-mids, and both Bruno and Burn are going to have to fight for their places. 

Counterpoint, you don't *need* a quarterback. Bruno can protect the defence and progress us forward without having to knock it 40 yards because he has other things in his locker?

[TRon]

Just now, Dr Venkman said:

Counterpoint, you don't *need* a quarterback. Bruno can protect the defence and progress us forward without having to knock it 40 yards because he has other things in his locker?

 

I mean that's how I would view it, especially since Joelinton and Willock are running back when we lose the ball as well. They are both box to box players, I don't think Bruno should need any more protection than that, and given the space Shelvey operates in, surely he should be able to get that ball up the pitch very effectively when he's got it?

[Dr Venkman]

4 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I mean that's how I would view it, especially since Joelinton and Willock are running back when we lose the ball as well. They are both box to box players, I don't think Bruno should need any more protection than that, and given the space Shelvey operates in, surely he should be able to get that ball up the pitch very effectively when he's got it?

That seems to be what he's good at so makes sense to me? I think you give Bruno and big Joe the responsibility to protect and let little Joe concentrate on taking up positions to capitalise on them winning possession? 3 genuine box to box players excites me more than 1 or 2 nice long passes per game.

 

 

Edited February 9, 2022 by Dr Venkman

[Zero]

Hugo Viana, if anyone remember 

[JNK]

13 minutes ago, Flip said:

Hmm... he’s very clearly talented. As for any team,he did well for Santos and was equally as hyped. His stint in Europe was a failure most probably because of attitude and not because of effort why I wouldn’t like him here. 
 

Anyways, back to Bruno. Has to start next match.

I don't think he was that hyped in Santos, many considered just lucky to have a good team around him. But anyway, I still think Cunha is a better prospect, he at least can play in top tier football, even if Simeone has gone full nuts this season.

 

About Bruno, has to start but where? 

[Hanshithispantz]

It would be absolutely crackers to not start him like.

[cubaricho]

I know we’re all pretty anti-Shelvey but he’s not the one who’s going to get dropped. It’ll be Joe unfortunately. 

[PauloGeordio]

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

I know we’re all pretty anti-Shelvey but he’s not the one who’s going to get dropped. It’ll be Joe unfortunately. 

Not a chance! 

[Kid Icarus]

7 minutes ago, Zero said:

Hugo Viana, if anyone remember 

 

N-O probably has an average age of 44 now. We remember.

[Rafalove]

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

I know we’re all pretty anti-Shelvey but he’s not the one who’s going to get dropped. It’ll be Joe unfortunately. 

 

why? EH must see that Willock is coming in to form, and Shelvey is a liability.

[Dr Venkman]

1 minute ago, cubaricho said:

I know we’re all pretty anti-Shelvey but he’s not the one who’s going to get dropped. It’ll be Joe unfortunately. 

I wouldn't be too peeved TBH, although I think it would be the wrong call, just don't drop little Joe.

 

That said I thought playing Lascelles and not Bruno last night was a bad decision and I was wrong, so fuck do I know? Really nice having a head coach who knows more about football than me 

[Lotus]

31 minutes ago, Flip said:

start him ahead of Shelvey/Willock. No need to mobe Joelinton when he’s finally playing well for the team.

I'd be surprised if EH didn't want to see if he can slowly revert JL to an attacker. Doesn't have to be as a striker, but at least someone who is tasked with affecting the game a little further up the pitch. 

I think ideally Bruno plays in JL's role. 

The 2 issues with that are; 1) Shelvey isn't anywhere good enough as a DM and maybe Bruno could do that very well but then he couldn't do the other stuff he clearly does extremely well, and 2) what do you do with JL?

[cubaricho]

2 minutes ago, Lotus said:

The 2 issues with that are; 1) Shelvey isn't anywhere good enough as a DM and maybe Bruno could do that very well but then he couldn't do the other stuff he clearly does extremely well, and 2) what do you do with JL?

 

1) We don't need Shelvey to be a traditional DM if Bruno is on the pitch breaking up play ahead of him.

2) He eventually gets dropped.

[Doctor Zaius]

I dont think he'll start on Sunday and to be honest, i'd back Howe on that. The midfield have played well on their last two outings and I dont think they've given Howe any reason to change. I know not changing a winning team is pure PFM nonesense, but in the same respect it would be harsh to drop any of the midfield three imo.

 

When he does inevitably come in, it should be for Willock. He did alright against Leeds and played well in the second half last night but Ive still got doubts about his quality. He often looks better in the second half when hes got the legs to stretch play. He's not suited to a tight midfield battle, his touch and positioning isnt good enough like. I've been seething at Shelvey for a good few years now but I've seen improvements in recent weeks. He looks a bit fitter, a bit more able to get around the park. He needs replaced asap but I wouldnt be dropping him at the moment. Bruno, Shelvey, Joelinton is out best midfield three like. 

[LV]

1 hour ago, Lotus said:

Personally I think Bruno will start against Villa..

 I think Howe may want to see if JL can be a little more effective a bit further up the pitch. Reckon Bruno for JL in the middle and JL instead of Fraser but not quite playing the same role.

Aim to help team press higher up the pitch. 

he’s not gonna drop Fraser right now if he’s fit

[Kasper]

Don't really care who he replaces, just wanna see him start.

[Guest HTT II]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

N-O probably has an average age of 44 now. We remember.

If @Mickreturns just alone, it jumps to 99!

[Amir_9]

Seeing Willock improving and getting closer to what we saw last year is for me more important to be built upon than starting with Shelvey

 

End of the day it solely depends on what role EH wants Bruno to bring and that'll ultimately decide who gets dropped

[McDog]

It's kind of insane to me to leave the world class midfielder out of the side because the current midfielders are in form.

 

This guy was brought in to help ensure they stay up, so play him now. He got his feet wet yesterday.

[M1tche]

Having him sit deepest in a midfield 3 is a waste, he has to play in one of the Willock or Joelinton roles. 

 

For me we should play Joe, Shelvey, Bruno and then Willock on late in the game up against tired legs and then rotate as needed. 

 

We need a proper DM in the summer for replace Shelvey and then we have a really strong midfield

[St1pe]

1 minute ago, M1tche said:

Having him sit deepest in a midfield 3 is a waste, he has to play in one of the Willock or Joelinton roles. 

 

For me we should play Joe, Shelvey, Bruno and then Willock on late in the game up against tired legs and then rotate as needed. 

 

We need a proper DM in the summer for replace Shelvey and then we have a really strong midfield

As much as I don’t think Willock deserves to lose his place, Bruno doesn’t look like he’s built for sitting in the role Shelvey has and you can’t drop Joelinton given how he’s played recently. 

[Flip]

2 minutes ago, M1tche said:

Having him sit deepest in a midfield 3 is a waste, he has to play in one of the Willock or Joelinton roles. 

 

For me we should play Joe, Shelvey, Bruno and then Willock on late in the game up against tired legs and then rotate as needed. 

 

We need a proper DM in the summer for replace Shelvey and then we have a really strong midfield

I like Joelinton, but if we want to really improve we need to have all three that started last night on the bench comw august.

[Nine]

1 minute ago, M1tche said:

Having him sit deepest in a midfield 3 is a waste, he has to play in one of the Willock or Joelinton roles. 

 

For me we should play Joe, Shelvey, Bruno and then Willock on late in the game up against tired legs and then rotate as needed. 

 

We need a proper DM in the summer for replace Shelvey and then we have a really strong midfield

This is the best way to incorporate him I think, Howe taking off Willock for him last night might be as sign of things to come. Just not sure on the time frame of it, if he gets one start over Willock and plays well I can’t see Howe not starting him.. depending on the opponent he might put Willock back in occasionally. Fully expect Bruno to be a starter from next season onwards though when he’s been fully bedded in and has settled.