Thumbheed Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Apologies if already posted but this is now my favourite stat of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I like the Bruno stats but you have to remember he came on against an Everton side who were physically and mentally gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, St1pe said: As much as I don’t think Willock deserves to lose his place, Bruno doesn’t look like he’s built for sitting in the role Shelvey has and you can’t drop Joelinton given how he’s played recently. You absolutely can, especially when Bruno does what Joe is currently doing to a much higher degree. 31 minutes ago, McDog said: It's kind of insane to me to leave the world class midfielder out of the side because the current midfielders are in form. It’s actually the opposite of insane. Especially when you consider the type of team spirit and cohesion Howe is fostering within the squad. If they’re in form, they keep their place. Which is good for us because it means they’re playing well and we’re playing well as a team. Everyone is playing for each other right now and it’s lifting the whole squad (a rising tide lifts all boats and all that). I wouldn’t want Howe to rock that balance and belief we have as a squad just as we finally get rolling in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Howe has players filling out very specific roles (essentially trying to get our best players on the ball as often as possible - Trippier and ASM) and because of that I agree it's not as simple as just dropping any player. As a team we're better than the sum of our parts. With that being said I do think some of the roles being asked aren't going to be too difficult to pass on. Shelvey being one who I think could easily be swapped out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, HTT II said: If @Mickreturns just alone, it jumps to 99! Mick, NE5 and HWTL takes it to 207. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Honest to god. This talk about this midfield being inform is ridiculous. We beat Leeds and Everton. Two bad teams at the moment. The bar is set really low if we feel like we want to keep these three in because they’re playing well. We need to have higher standards if we want to stay up and Bruno is clearly our best midfielder. You have to start him against Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Honest to god. This talk about this midfield being inform is ridiculous. We beat Leeds and Everton. Two bad teams at the moment. The bar is set really low if we feel like we want to keep these three in because they’re playing well. We need to have higher standards if we want to stay up and Bruno is clearly our best midfielder. You have to start him against Villa. Plus Everton played through us too easily at times imo. Not a lot but some scenarios where they got through too easy imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 36 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said: I like the Bruno stats but you have to remember he came on against an Everton side who were physically and mentally gone. Thanks to the team and the fans in the stadium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Nine said: This is the best way to incorporate him I think, Howe taking off Willock for him last night might be as sign of things to come. Just not sure on the time frame of it, if he gets one start over Willock and plays well I can’t see Howe not starting him.. depending on the opponent he might put Willock back in occasionally. Fully expect Bruno to be a starter from next season onwards though when he’s been fully bedded in and has settled. If he's not starting within 2 or 3 games ill be massively shocked, if he trains as good as that cameo was it's impossible to not start soon him reguardless of whats happening on a matchday. I can see a rotation being used though, depending on who we're playing. He might play the 3 without Shelvey for the odd game as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, M1tche said: If he's not starting within 2 or 3 games ill be massively shocked, if he trains as good as that cameo was it's impossible to not start soon him reguardless of whats happening on a matchday. I can see a rotation being used though, depending on who we're playing. He might play the 3 without Shelvey for the odd game as well Hoping thats what Howes thinking Edited February 9, 2022 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Any slick reaction to last night video from Bruno yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: You absolutely can, especially when Bruno does what Joe is currently doing to a much higher degree. It’s actually the opposite of insane. Especially when you consider the type of team spirit and cohesion Howe is fostering within the squad. If they’re in form, they keep their place. Which is good for us because it means they’re playing well and we’re playing well as a team. Everyone is playing for each other right now and it’s lifting the whole squad (a rising tide lifts all boats and all that). I wouldn’t want Howe to rock that balance and belief we have as a squad just as we finally get rolling in the right direction. We'll have to disagree. I personally believe he'd fire everyone up, look at the teams reaction since he turned up? It's Howe's call obviously and he is closest to the situation. If the team spirit and cohesion would be disrupted or destroyed by dropping Shelvey or Willock for a world class midfielder that the team and fans buzzing then they have a beyond fragile cohesion. Just my opinion. Edited February 9, 2022 by McDog Grammer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, M1tche said: If he's not starting within 2 or 3 games ill be massively shocked, if he trains as good as that cameo was it's impossible to not start soon him reguardless of whats happening on a matchday. I can see a rotation being used though, depending on who we're playing. He might play the 3 without Shelvey for the odd game as well Yep. We’ve been on about our poor central midfield all season and now we’ve signed a Brazil international for big money. Of course he should start games, and he will. That’s what he’s been brought in to do, just like Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, McDog said: If the team spirit and cohesion would be disrupted or destroyed by dropping Shelvey or Willock for a world class midfielder that the team and fans buzzing then they have a beyond fragile cohesion This is assuming that it's either of those two getting dropped when in reality it'll be Joe, who has worked his fucking bollocks off for us and puts in 110% each shift. Unfortunately the position he currently is sitting in is where Bruno fits best into the system. Dropping a player like Joe right now is a delicate balancing act. Why work your ass off if someone can just come in and take your spot? Sends the completely wrong message to the one that Howe is instilling in the squad. If someone gets injured then it's the golden opportunity for Howe, but unless that happens, Bruno will likely be slowly integrated into the matches until eventually starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, cubaricho said: This is assuming that it's either of those two getting dropped when in reality it'll be Joe, who has worked his fucking bollocks off for us and puts in 110% each shift. Unfortunately the position he currently is sitting in is where Bruno fits best into the system. Dropping a player like Joe right now is a delicate balancing act. Why work your ass off if someone can just come in and take your spot? Sends the completely wrong message to the one that Howe is instilling in the squad. If someone gets injured then it's the golden opportunity for Howe, but unless that happens, Bruno will likely be slowly integrated into the matches until eventually starting. I do think chucking 5 new guys would be a mistake but Trippier/Bruno are the best new additions so he'd get added in my world. Guess we'll see on Sunday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Ah god misclicked thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonScotman Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I don’t see why Joe Willock should be dropped when he is just starting to recapture his form. I think we all know shelvey should be dropped but there’s a chance he drops big JL as he had an ongoing injury but would be sad to see big JL lose his place. What’s weird is by putting Bruno in for any of those 3 it won’t weaken us it’ll firmly improve us which is hard to get the head around but his time will come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I think he may consider Joelinton wide again. Did well there against Brentford and even had the odd ‘ok’ game under Bruce wide. Well, by his old standards, at least. Would mean dropping Fraser, mind. I just don’t see him or Shelvey making way. Willock should start IMO. Shelvey is the obvious one to be left out. But I don’t think that will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ToonScotman said: I don’t see why Joe Willock should be dropped when he is just starting to recapture his form. I think we all know shelvey should be dropped but there’s a chance he drops big JL as he had an ongoing injury but would be sad to see big JL lose his place. What’s weird is by putting Bruno in for any of those 3 it won’t weaken us it’ll firmly improve us which is hard to get the head around but his time will come. So Willock is re-capturing his form because he no longer looks awful? What has he actually really done of note in the last couple of games that Bruno wouldn't do infinitely better. Willock is the one that should drop out and will drop out. He is young enough to continue to play sparingly going forward and improve on his game for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I'm not too sure or even bothered if he starts against Villa, but if he doesn't I think he will get more of a run out this time (maybe come on after 60-65 mins) or earlier in reaction to the game (goal, injury etc). He's going to be a mainstay for us and it wont be too long before he claims his regular place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, DMLeazesender said: I'm not too sure or even bothered if he starts against Villa, but if he doesn't I think he will get more of a run out this time (maybe come on after 60-65 mins) or earlier in reaction to the game (goal, injury etc). He's going to be a mainstay for us and it wont be too long before he claims his regular place. Thing is, it's not like NUFC is up 10 points of relegation. They are not. Get the man into the lineup and get him playing with the first team in live action. It's not like they are 10 up at the top of the table either and can fuck around slowly blending guys into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I remember when Bruce used to get pelters on here for "not changing a winning team." It was justified. I think both Shelvey and Willock have weaknesses, and I'd be okay with either one of them dropping to the bench, so we can start blooding Bruno into the lineup. We can always take him or someone else off around the 60-70min mark. I just want to see how Howe has envisaged Bruno slotting in, and how he wants to set the team up. If that's the long term goal, why wait? I just don't think Big Joe should be dropped, as he's been stellar under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, McDog said: Thing is, it's not like NUFC is up 10 points of relegation. They are not. Get the man into the lineup and get him playing with the first team in live action. It's not like they are 10 up at the top of the table either and can fuck around slowly blending guys into the team. We're not safe on paper but i'm not worried in the slightest. We are on the up and we have momentum. More importantly, we now have better players(£95m ffs!!) and the players we already had, have improved, the fans are up for it and SJP is bouncing. I also have total confidence in Eddie Howe, who I have always rated highly. Performances have improved massively since he took over. That's why I'm not concerned about rushing in Bruno - everything is heading in the right direction. He's just another bomb to drop on the Premier League Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 6 hours ago, KaKa said: So Willock is re-capturing his form because he no longer looks awful? What has he actually really done of note in the last couple of games that Bruno wouldn't do infinitely better. Willock is the one that should drop out and will drop out. He is young enough to continue to play sparingly going forward and improve on his game for now. Agreed. Don’t really get this Willock love. He has looked better than previously, but in what way has he made himself undroppable? Seriously, he’s been nothing special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Flip said: Agreed. Don’t really get this Willock love. He has looked better than previously, but in what way has he made himself undroppable? Seriously, he’s been nothing special. agree, I was surprised to read some thinking he was MOM, not for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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