Bruno Guimarães

[GWN]

14 hours ago, RodneyCisse said:

He has to come in for shelvey.

 

Thought Shelvey has done everything right last half dozen games tbf, I’m no fan of him but he’s done nothing to warrant dropping .

[Cronky]

I get the feeling that we'll need a situation where we're a goal down with 30 minutes left before we see him for any length of time. Either that, or an injury to Joelinton, Shelvey or Willock.

 

Points are precious, and Howe doesn't want to take a risk from a good position. 

[Lush Vlad]

I know it will always be seen as him being ‘dropped’. But at the same time, if we want a bit more of a foothold in the middle and some control of the ball and tempo. I don’t see how Shelvey fits Howe’s plans long term.
 

Hypothetical at this stage. But are we thinking Bruno can’t do any better than what Shelvey is doing at the minute? Pro sport is pretty ruthless and no room for sentiment. Even if it would seem harsh to bench Shelvey on his current form. 
 

I do expect Guimaraes to come in at some point and to my untrained eye. The most obvious swap is for Shelvey. 

[The Prophet]

The bizarre thing is that none of the midfield three deserve to be dropped in current form. Imagine saying that pre-Howe, it's incredible really.

[Robster]

4 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

The bizarre thing is that none of the midfield three deserve to be dropped in current form. Imagine saying that pre-Howe, it's incredible really.

It's really positive that they've all risen to the challenge and not just given up, assuming that they are going to be dropped.

[Kanj]

I see him eventually replacing Shelvey in the team as the deep playmaker and tempo setting midfielder. Willock and Joelinton are different types of players and their individual attributes and contributions are far too critical to be replaced by Bruno G. 

[Doctor Zaius]

Just now, Kanji said:

I see him eventually replacing Shelvey in the team as the deep playmaker and tempo setting midfielder. Willock and Joelinton are different types of players and their individual attributes and contributions are far too critical to be replaced by Bruno G. 

 

I'd like that too but I think Howe rates Shelvey

[Lush Vlad]

I reckon we may get some rotation coming up. As we have the Thursday games against Southampton and Everton. The midfield 3 have been grafting their bollocks off in games this year. 

[Happinesstan]

We're unbeaten in 6 games without playing an unchanged team. Through new signings, and later injuries, changes have been necessary. I think the first chance Howe gets to play an unchanged team, Bruno will be in.

[Robster]

39 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I'd like that too but I think Howe rates Shelvey

I don't see Howe sticking with Shelvey if he's not performing to the required standard though.

[kingxlnc]

Having Bruno and Joelinton as that Brazillian double pivot is as tantalising a prospect as what their initials spell 

 

 

[madras]

1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

Having Bruno and Joelinton as that Brazillian double pivot is as tantalising a prospect as what their initials spell 

 

 

JB....Jim Beam ?

[TomYam]

3 minutes ago, madras said:

JB....Jim Beam ?

 

BJ....Boris Johnson? 

[Solitude20]

3 hours ago, Kanji said:

I see him eventually replacing Shelvey in the team as the deep playmaker and tempo setting midfielder. Willock and Joelinton are different types of players and their individual attributes and contributions are far too critical to be replaced by Bruno G. 

Wow, I don’t think you guys appreciate Bruno. There is nothing that Willock offers that Bruno does not. On the other hand,Bruno is a much better passer, dribbler, and tackler than Willock. He reads the game better and offers excellent off the ball movements. He’s soon to become a regular starter in the Brazilian national team, and we say he can’t replace a midtable-tier Willock? 

 

 

Edited February 20, 2022 by Solitude20

[STM]

1 minute ago, Solitude20 said:

Wow, I don’t think you guys appreciate Bruno. There is nothing that Willock offers that Bruno does not. On the other, Bruno is a much better passer, dribbler, and tackler than Willock. Je reads the game better and offers excellent off the ball movements. He’s soon to become a regular starter in the Brazilian national team, and we say he can’t replace a midtable-tier Willock? 

 

I don't disagree but there is more to building a squad and team than simply picking 11 players.

 

Eddie Howe is balancing squad harmony right now and doing a good job at it.

 

Bruno will play soon and we all suspect he will be class. Right now he's like a trump card that we can use at any time.

[BottledDog]

Add to that, Willock is has the knack to get in there and score goals; unfortunately that's a bit of a rare talent in our squad.

[Hanshithispantz]

Would be canny wild dropping Willock after he's just rescued us a draw like.

[Elliottman]

He’ll come in when we lose a game or get an injury to one of the three. The team isn’t getting changed until then, would be canny nuts to change things at the moment. 

[et tu brute]

For the first time in a long time we have a recognised quality international midfielder to allow midfield squad rotation and he should be getting a game and not just five minutes. There is still not much creativity in the midfield area and I honestly believe Bruno will  certainly improve us in that area. 

[Solitude20]

28 minutes ago, STM said:

 

I don't disagree but there is more to building a squad and team than simply picking 11 players.

 

Eddie Howe is balancing squad harmony right now and doing a good job at it.

 

Bruno will play soon and we all suspect he will be class. Right now he's like a trump card that we can use at any time.

I trust Howe, and that’s the only reason why I am okay with that. But don’t forget the ambition of the new owners, we have to win the EPL in 10 years and qualify for Europe in 2-3 years. That will only be achieved by replacing most of our starting team with better players. It is inevitable that many of our starting XI would be upset for not starting games next season. There’s noway around that, otherwise we won’t achieve our ambitions. 
 

what message are we sending to our potential signings next summer if they know they won’t be getting their promised playtime just to maintain the squad harmony? What if we keep the current form until the end of the season and never remove Willock from the starting XI, are we going to spend millions on world-class players then choose to play Willock just because we maintained form? The bigger question is: what could Bruno and those like him offer to the team when they are playing on great form? Even if Bruno was lower than his average form, he could outplay a top form Willock. 

 

 

Edited February 20, 2022 by Solitude20

[Wilson]

28 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

Wow, I don’t think you guys appreciate Bruno. There is nothing that Willock offers that Bruno does not. On the other hand,Bruno is a much better passer, dribbler, and tackler than Willock. He reads the game better and offers excellent off the ball movements. He’s soon to become a regular starter in the Brazilian national team, and we say he can’t replace a midtable-tier Willock? 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure that's what he's saying, he said WIllock is a different player which (going off my understanding) is correct, no?  Willock plays further forward.  Pretty sure I remember Bruno making sure we knew we weren't getting forward.  I'd hope Bruno comes in for Shelvey, don't think that's how it'll pan out.

 

Again, not to open this can of worms on here again, but I think he should have been starting ahead of Shelvey by now.  

[Wilson]

1 minute ago, Solitude20 said:

I trust Howe, and that’s the only reason why I am okay with that. But don’t forget the ambition of the new owners, we have to win the EPL in 10 years and qualify for Europe in 2-3 years. That will only be achieved by replacing most of our starting team with better players. It is inevitable that many of our starting XI would be upset for not starting games next season. There’s noway around that, otherwise we won’t achieve our ambitions. 
 

what message are we sending to our potential signings next summer if they know they won’t be getting their promised playtime just to maintain the squad harmony? What if we keep the current form until the end of the season and never remove Willock from the starting XI, are we going to spend millions on world-class players then choose to play Willock just because we maintained form? The bigger question is: what could Bruno and those like him offer to the team when they are playing on great form? Even a below average Bruno could outplay a top form Willock. 

 

 

 

[Hanshithispantz]

He'll not be doing this next year though. Under normal circumstances I imagine he would look at Brentford as a side we should be beating, and would play Bruno with the expectancy that we'll see more of the ball and need someone to unlock their defence. At the minute though I expect him to just keep doing what we're doing until it stops working.

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

He'll not be doing this next year though. Under normal circumstances I imagine he would look at Brentford as a side we should be beating, and would play Bruno with the expectancy that we'll see more of the ball and need someone to unlock their defence. At the minute though I expect him to just keep doing what we're doing until it stops working.

Thing is though I honestly think by adding Bruno to that midfield it will also take up our level of performance up a level.

[buzz]

6 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

I trust Howe, and that’s the only reason why I am okay with that. But don’t forget the ambition of the new owners, we have to win the EPL in 10 years and qualify for Europe in 2-3 years. That will only be achieved by replacing most of our starting team with better players. It is inevitable that many of our starting XI would be upset for not starting games next season. There’s noway around that, otherwise we won’t achieve our ambitions. 
 

what message are we sending to our potential signings next summer if they know they won’t be getting their promised playtime just to maintain the squad harmony? What if we keep the current form until the end of the season and never remove Willock from the starting XI, are we going to spend millions on world-class players then choose to play Willock just because we maintained form? The bigger question is: what could Bruno and those like him offer to the team when they are playing on great form? Even if Bruno was lower than his average form, he could outplay a top form Willock. 

 

 

 

 

You're basically asking "What message are we sending to our potential signings next summer if we carry on winning games?"  

 

The continuity of Willock-Shelvey-Joelinton is a massive part of that. Disrupt the dynamic and there's a good chance the team stops functioning the successful way it currently is.