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6 hours ago, Dr Venkman said:

Put him on ignore.

 

For some reason I'd forgotten that the forum got an ignore function years go :lol: Cheers for reminding me, will improve my experience of the forum immensely :rose: 

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8 hours ago, Kaizero said:

 

To this day, nobody will ever manage to convince me that any of the "Mags popping up" on RTG aren't just their own members cosplaying as NUFC supporters because no actual real life NUFC supporter care enough about the "rivalry" to bother giving them a second of attention. They're a nothing club, they've always been a nothing club, and even though they're the nearest professional club to us geographically – that doesn't mean they're worthy of any acknowledgement. The "rivalry" is 95% one-sided, with the remaining 5% being NUFC supporters that happen to either be related to, or working a job alongside, someone that supports SAFC – with that/those individuals being the ones to constantly bring up the "rivalry" and talk about "bragging rights" :dontknow: 

 

If those people didn't force NUFC supporters to engage them in conversation about the supposed existence of North East Bragging Rights™ , everyone would just go about their day well aware of the fact SAFC are a nothing club that serves as table filler for whatever one of the English leagues they happen to be in at the time, and that NUFC are a well supported club that's not currently a "big" club – but a club whose existence is worth acknowledging for multiple reasons nonetheless.

 

Personally, I despise the fact those whining cunts get acknowledged enough for people to talk about their existing any form of genuine rivalry between the clubs when it comes to footballing status, history or even general sporting prowess. That there's a rivalry between the two neighbouring towns in general I have no issue with, everyone hates their neighbours and want to own a bigger house, a better car and have a fitter wife than they do, it's just human nature. But I passionately hate that they keep getting mentioned as sporting rivals when they're a club that can't even fill their stadium when playing in the Premier League and are only known for being the home of cunty players and employing known fascists as managers. When removing all geographical context from a hypothetical discussion, nobody would think of mentioning SAFC in relation to NUFC when it comes to football.

 

Their "obsession" with us is because they're all well aware of that fact.

 

That said, again, I do know and acknowledge that the neighbouring city rivalry is genuine. I just think it's idiotic the way some people try taking aspects of that genuine rivalry to forcibly try applying the existence of it as a means of justifying SAFC being a club that matter, so it gets acknowledged by non-SAFC people. It's just trying to use our standing in the game to heighten their own, when the reality is that they as a club don't matter one iota to anyone else other than their own supporters, which is the reality for probably 99% of the clubs that make up the English league system outside the clubs with a massive worldwide fanbase – yet they're the only club whose supporters try to act like that's just not the case instead of just enjoying their football, which is why I hate it :lol: 

 

(I know that in ancient times city pride mattered a fair bit more and the rivalry might've been more actively acknowledged by both set of supporters, but the clubs have only played in the same division 20 seasons out of the last 50, and 10 out of the last 30. So few matches have taken place between the two clubs across the last two generations that, arguably, nobody amongst either set of supporters should give a fuck about the other. Both clubs have played the same amount of seasons in the same league as Middlesbrough, yet you don't see any Middlesbrough supporters act like there exists some form of sporting rivalry between them and any of the two other clubs, because there isn't one.

 

 

 

Sima, myself and Midds used to be on there.

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1 hour ago, madras said:

Sima, myself and Midds used to be on there.

From the bits and pieces I see from over there Sima still gets more than the odd mention during their regular meltdowns [emoji38]

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1 hour ago, Kilcline said:

From the bits and pieces I see from over there Sima still gets more than the odd mention during their regular meltdowns [emoji38]


:lol: 

 

Every Newcastle fan on there has been accused of being me at some point.

 

Well, everyone outside of that hooplicker Biffo the Bear that is.

 

 

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Sat in a pub in Middlesbrough, a fairly clearly casual smoggie is talking to some older bloke some absolute nonsense, "you'd almost want to see sunderland go up wouldnt you they can get people to go to their ground, they can fill it up", the older guy looks incredibly uninterested, i think he may be his dad and is just all round disappointed in him

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I think for sure they have the best chance for years of being promoted but, they have basically no revenue,  can't imagine how they can invest the money they make from being promoted and stay on the right side of the profit and sustainability rules.  They could be bought by a huge wealth fund, clearly not middle east though, morals too high.  That still wouldn't change the fact they could not spend any money.  

 

So being Premier League team would be for just a season.  None promoted teams in recent years have done well.

 

I frankly don't care whether they come up or stay down there...   the derby match is full of terrible recent memories for me but, come on....   there is a huge gulf between us now.  They cannot catch up...  let's just accept they are a good team in a rotten Championship and when they do come up to the Premier League they will find out that maybe they couldn't give PSG a game after all....   

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

If they do come up Isidor and Le Fee will become permanent signings, so they are committing a decent chunk of their budget to them

 

They'll need to buy some better players if they aim to stay up

Didn’t they make an offer to get Tom Cannon on loan with a view to paying £13m if they go up? Poor business imo. 

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26 minutes ago, pinkeye said:

I think for sure they have the best chance for years of being promoted but, they have basically no revenue,  can't imagine how they can invest the money they make from being promoted and stay on the right side of the profit and sustainability rules.  They could be bought by a huge wealth fund, clearly not middle east though, morals too high.  That still wouldn't change the fact they could not spend any money.  

 

So being Premier League team would be for just a season.  None promoted teams in recent years have done well.

 

I frankly don't care whether they come up or stay down there...   the derby match is full of terrible recent memories for me but, come on....   there is a huge gulf between us now.  They cannot catch up...  let's just accept they are a good team in a rotten Championship and when they do come up to the Premier League they will find out that maybe they couldn't give PSG a game after all....

I work a lot in Sunderland, basically one of our plants is on their port, and we have a contract with the local council.

As much as they may not go to games, they fucking have a load of shirts and shit. That away shirt they have this season has got to be the best selling shirt they have ever had, absolutely fucking all of them are wearing it, the training jacket as well.

Probably not enough on it’s own, and the case remains to be seen if they will do the same next year where they likely won’t have a retro style away shirt/jacket to sell, or one that may not be as popular.

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59 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

Sat in a pub in Middlesbrough, a fairly clearly casual smoggie is talking to some older bloke some absolute nonsense, "you'd almost want to see sunderland go up wouldnt you they can get people to go to their ground, they can fill it up", the older guy looks incredibly uninterested, i think he may be his dad and is just all round disappointed in him

What pub, out of interest?

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Just now, Paully said:

Watching this in a boozer with no sound - wtf happened there?! Scored a 2nd and chalked off?! 

 

They were fucked over TBF, might have been the 4th official 

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