OpenC Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: The worst thing is people acting like we expect a discount. All because Ratcliffe said it's asburd someone as good as Ashworth sitting in his garden for a year, which he's absolutely right in saying. That doesn't translate to, "give him to us now for fuck all." It's not absurd in the least though, in the context of him being contracted and therefore him leaving to strengthen a direct rival would be counterproductive to the people who gave him that contract. It's a fucking stupid thing to say, monumentally naive at best and just outright duplicitous at worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: Froggy, your sir Jim basically tried to make us look like mugs with his relentlessly stupid public statements, I get it though, he’s your savour so your impression will differ. Now, our demands are set by us, what we gave Brighton have no bearing on anything, ultimately your clubs past behaviour has and how you’ve handled this affair means we should give you absolutely no leeway and he can sit in his garden until January. He's not my saviour. He's jumping into bed with the Glazers and he's a bit mouthy for my liking. He's made some good decisions so far with the executives we're bringing in, but what power will ultimately lie with them remains to be seen. There's a quiet hesitation with fans towards INEOS. I do think there's an overreaction, albeit and understandable one, to his comments on here though. Driven by the annoyance of us poaching Ashworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 10 hours ago, The Butcher said: Pay up or shut up, Jim - arrogant bellend - I think they expected to walk all over us for Ashworth - not anymore I'm afraid! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Worth the money just to keep the greatest club in the world hanging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 32 minutes ago, Froggy said: Driven by the annoyance of us poaching Ashworth I think most (myself included) are way more annoyed by your club's attitude than Ashworth going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 47 minutes ago, Froggy said: The worst thing is people acting like we expect a discount. All because Ratcliffe said it's asburd someone as good as Ashworth sitting in his garden for a year, which he's absolutely right in saying. That doesn't translate to, "give him to us now for fuck all.". Well one thing that has also been widely reported is the "Wembley of the North" involving tax payer money so there is a fairly recent history of Ratcliffe trying to find alternatives to putting his hand in his own pocket more than is absolutely necessary. 1 minute ago, Chris_R said: I think most (myself included) are way more annoyed by your club's attitude than Ashworth going. Also this. All very public from day one. A bit like our own pursuit of Emery, fortunately we learned our lesson fairly quickly after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 13 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: ll very public from day one. A bit like our own pursuit of Emery, fortunately we learned our lesson fairly quickly after that. We pinched Berrada from City, which is arguably a bigger coup than Ashworth, and that was kept under wraps until it was a done deal. He's on gardening leave as well. Makes you wonder, since you have previous with Emery... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, Froggy said: We pinched Berrada from City, which is arguably a bigger coup than Ashworth, and that was kept under wraps until it was a done deal. He's on gardening leave as well. Makes you wonder, since you have previous with Emery... Yes we have previous with Emery. Over two years ago now. It went badly and we haven't had a very public pursuit since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) It’s been more or less confirmed that months long leaking of stories about Man United wanting him came from the Man United side. It’s a large part of the reason we’re pissed off. The Berrada deal may have been kept under wraps - probably because of the unique circumstances around Man United poaching someone from their more recently successful local rivals - but the Ashworth and Wilcox situations are almost identical. I think it speaks of a bit of entitlement and arrogance on the part of Ratcliffe. It very much ties in with him shiteing on about public funding for a new stadium. Edited April 12 by christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 11 hours ago, Shak said: Ratcliffe seems massively like someone who will have made some patronising remark to Staveley that he wouldn't have to a man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 39 minutes ago, Froggy said: Makes you wonder, since you have previous with Emery... rating this, well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, SiLvOR said: rating this, well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 My only concern is whether Ashworth not being in place will affect/delay their appointment of Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, cubaricho said: Y’all need to get over Ashwoth. He gone. Who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, cubaricho said: Y’all need to get over Ashwoth. He gone. I mean, who's this directed at like? It's just post after post of people taking the piss, don't really think anyone gives a shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Ashes to ashes, Ashley to Ashworth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, Froggy said: We pinched Berrada from City, which is arguably a bigger coup than Ashworth, and that was kept under wraps until it was a done deal. He's on gardening leave as well. Makes you wonder, since you have previous with Emery... Theres also rumours that you're having issues with Southampton over Ripley. You claiming there's a clause in the contract that Southampton are denying exists. So unless PIF have their oar in there, it suggests that the playing things out in public is from your side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Get this bugger handing the bibs out and placing the cones. He's getting paid get him cleaning the bogs or something. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) Aren't you supposed to check what it will take to get someone from another club prior to making your move? This Ratcliffe is coming across shoddily already. He's giving Todd Boehly vibes, which is great. When we wanted Ashworth from Brighton we weren't all over the media bitching and whining. We negotiated and came to an agreement. This Ratcliffe guy really thinks he can dictate how much he is going to pay for someone that is highly rated and was a big part of our plans, which he only barely started work on. This is clown world. Let Ashworth frolick about in that garden for however long if these jokers don't want to pay the money. Edited April 12 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Oh he's actually called Ratcliffe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Illegal approaches and tapping up happen all the time, he's an asset employed by Newcastle United if Manchester United want him they have to pay what we ask. The only other way around it is the legal route but I can't see what avenue Manchester United could use in that instance. In theory Newcastle United could take action against Ashworth for not fulfilling the terms of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 During his gardening I bet that he’s dropping down secret notes down the sewers for Ratcliffe to pick up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 12/04/2024 at 08:23, Pilko said: I am considerably....considerably richer than yaaoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 PAY THE IRON PRICE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLUMPO235 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Does this sort of thing normally take this long to finalise. It’s starting to feel like they don’t want him. I remember him being unavailable on GL for ages when he joined, but the actual joining didn’t seem to take this long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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