bowlingcrofty Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Yeah I rate Pedro but that’s lunacy. Maddison would be a genuinely top class signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Slim said: Think that's a pretty wild choice. Maddison one best players in prem at the moment. Never see him press effectively. Not particularly pacy. Plays at his own tempo and another player very strong on one foot and very weak on the other. I think he’d stick out like Shelvey does now and if he’s meant to be fitted into our front three you’ve got to be able to press hard and fast. What (admittedly little) I’ve seen of Pedro is good pace, comfortable using both feet so could cover across the frontline. Physically strong so would offer more aerially and great footwork and balance. Don’t get me wrong Maddison is a very good player but all round Pedro looks a lovely footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Pfft, there’s only one “Pedro” man. How much would he be worth now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 I’d take Joao in a pinch like. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Prophet said: Edited November 14, 2022 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, LFEE said: Basically confirming what I’d read previously… Ben Jacobs @JacobsBen 4h & Mudryk has noticed many #AFC fans courting him online: “One surprise for me was how many Arsenal fans followed me. No other club’s fans have interacted as much. They tell me they're waiting for me saying, ‘Come to us’. One of my recent posts has over 500 comments saying that.” ..we need to get on twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, LFEE said: Never see him press effectively. Not particularly pacy. Plays at his own tempo and another player very strong on one foot and very weak on the other. I think he’d stick out like Shelvey does now and if he’s meant to be fitted into our front three you’ve got to be able to press hard and fast. What (admittedly little) I’ve seen of Pedro is good pace, comfortable using both feet so could cover across the frontline. Physically strong so would offer more aerially and great footwork and balance. Don’t get me wrong Maddison is a very good player but all round Pedro looks a lovely footballer. I’m sorry but Maddison is not ‘very strong on one foot and very weak on the other’. I’m pretty sure he’s scored against us from outside the box with both his right and left foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, duo said: Ben Jacobs @JacobsBen 4h & Mudryk has noticed many #AFC fans courting him online: “One surprise for me was how many Arsenal fans followed me. No other club’s fans have interacted as much. They tell me they're waiting for me saying, ‘Come to us’. One of my recent posts has over 500 comments saying that.” ..we need to get on twitter Desperate in case we beat them to another ‘Bruno’ again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 hours ago, toontownman said: Didn't notice the Chronicle linking us with Jonathan David again last week. Seems unlikely to me. A good long term Wilson replacement though maybe to play off Isak but unless he is playing AM I don't know where he fits in this year. 9 in 15, 3 Assists and 22 years old. He'd be mint as Wilson's replacement and he pairs well with someone like Isak. (See his play with Cyle Larin on the Canadian National Team) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, NWMag said: I’m sorry but Maddison is not ‘very strong on one foot and very weak on the other’. I’m pretty sure he’s scored against us from outside the box with both his right and left foot. He’s scored a few with left foot but wasn’t really the point I was making. More his playing and passing style. Look forward to seeing him up against us this season as he usually does well against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, duo said: Ben Jacobs @JacobsBen 4h & Mudryk has noticed many #AFC fans courting him online: “One surprise for me was how many Arsenal fans followed me. No other club’s fans have interacted as much. They tell me they're waiting for me saying, ‘Come to us’. One of my recent posts has over 500 comments saying that.” ..we need to get on twitter Howay Newcastle Twitter and Youtube weirdos, do your bit. Put the energy into buttering up Mudryk that you put into getting pictures of Paqueta in the Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Perrone, Santos, Kuol, Drameh/Ashby and one of Maddison/ Diaby/ Mudryk/ Pedro (in order of preference) coming in Jan would be amazing. CL guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, McCormick said: Perrone, Santos, Kuol, Drameh/Ashby and one of Maddison/ Diaby/ Mudryk/ Pedro (in order of preference) coming in Jan would be amazing. CL guaranteed. dream scenario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball? It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no? Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Oregon_Geordie said: I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball? It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no? Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk... I know what you mean but I think he’s pretty adaptable position wise even if he’s different to what we already have. I think he’d be a tremendous signing and Howe would be able to coach him massively to our style too and he’d give us that player to really open teams up at home too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 8 hours ago, NWMag said: I’m sorry but Maddison is not ‘very strong on one foot and very weak on the other’. I’m pretty sure he’s scored against us from outside the box with both his right and left foot. Maddison is very two footed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Maddison is probably the most underrated player in the league. Looks class in a struggling team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I have no qualms about who NUFC signs in january, I have 100% trust in them at the moment due to their 100% success in the signings made to date. My own opinion is that we will probably sell ASM and buy perhaps two attacking wingers/Nº10 types (Diaby/maddison/Mudryk...). I just can´t see ASM turning into a pressing beast any time soon. I think we will also bring in a few younger "stars" (perrone -argentina?/kuol/others) who can grow into the team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Oregon_Geordie said: I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball? It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no? Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk... You've summarised the dilemma there. If someone had told me a year ago that we'd have a very effective pressing game, I'd have laughed. We didn't press at all, and the players we've brought in, you wouldn't say would be ones that would change that. None of our midfield players have pace and we don't have a DM, which I had thought was essential. Eddie has achieved a strong press by an effective fitness programme and by good organisation. He seems to have developed in our team a pack-like instinct about when to commit to the press. So I wonder whether he can do a similar transformation with Maddison, who you rightly say isn't obviously suited to that kind of aggressive game. The other orthodoxy that Eddie is challenging is the need for a specialist DM to protect the back line. I had often thought that it was a double edged sword, because a DM tends to see a lot of the ball, and if they can't use it well then the creative aspect of your team is hampered. And if you're pressuring the ball further upfield, then you don't need someone to defend the back line so much. On a related point, that's why I find Southgate's commitment to two DMs in Phillips and Rice so frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 TBF to Southgate he’s limited to tactical instructions. He can’t really improve players or make them any fitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Oregon_Geordie said: I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball? It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no? Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk... Agree completely, got my doubts about Maddison, not as a footballer but as suited to our way of play. The only thing is though if Bruno got injured would we have that creative spark to see a pass, not so sure and there’s an argument that he could be useful in tight games at home when we need to break down a packed defence. We would lose a lot of physicality in midfield by dropping Longstaff or Joelinton at the minute, so not sure how he fits in especially for what he’d cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Oregon_Geordie said: I like Maddison, but does he suit our style of play and intensity without the ball? It's the reason I don't see Maxi staying much longer. Maddison is a little one paced, no? Maybe thats just my view. I'd rather add more legs in the DM role and push Bruno forward and get Diaby / Mudryk... Does he suit our style ? Probably not right now. More importantly would he fit the way Eddie sees us playing in the future ? Has he the capacity to change his game the way Eddie wants it given that the way we play now will not be the finished article. Edited November 15, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 To me Kovacic is the type of midfielder we need. Great technique and mixture of attributes. Obviously I doubt he’d be available but a player of that ilk as he could interchange positions with Bruno and Joelinton. Basically an upgrade on Longstaff. Maddison I’d imagine would have to play in the front three which like I’ve said doesn’t suite our high end press. Play him in the middle three and I think you’d compromise Bruno and create more problems than you solve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Not sure about Maddison not fitting our style argument... Let's be honest he's no slower than Longstaff or Bruno and they fit in quite well with it. I wouldn't have believed this time last season even that we would be seeing the players Bruce had playing the way they are now. It might take a little bit to adjust but I think he could fit in if he has the right attitude and desire to play like the rest of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, beardsleymagic said: Not sure about Maddison not fitting our style argument... Let's be honest he's no slower than Longstaff or Bruno and they fit in quite well with it. I wouldn't have believed this time last season even that we would be seeing the players Bruce had playing the way they are now. It might take a little bit to adjust but I think he could fit in if he has the right attitude and desire to play like the rest of the team. I think that’s key to Eddie, attitude and desire. If he sees capability, with the right desire and attitude. I believe he’ll believe he can fit the player into our system with coaching. What a fucking manager he is! Edited November 15, 2022 by PauloGeordio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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