Dokko Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I want whoever Howe wants. He's shown he (and the club) knows more about it all than me. Leave it to them and see what happens next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Tielemans could be excellent but that leicester teams mentality has to be questioned a bit? Their midfield looked weak as piss. Would definitely take though if our scouts reckon he's a good egg. Jorginho may make some sense in that bring in a veteran that sometimes helps teams but can't see us paying his wages. He would bring some slow possession keeping to take sting out of games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dokko said: I want whoever Howe wants. He's shown he (and the club) knows more about it all than me. Leave it to them and see what happens next. This!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just can’t see Jorginho fitting into Howes energetic, aggressive, all action pressing. His age is going to count against that very soon. This, and wages, make it a non starter for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I see Hope has mentioned Jorginho, Tielemans, Thuram and Kone. The latter would be a superb buy, I don't know loads about Thuram but heard good things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Plus his crap stop start penalties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Manxst said: Not to mention he’s already 31, and the owners have already stated they want to bring the squad age down. He's another one though, is he going to get £200k a week elsewhere? If he comes here on £100-120k with just the signing-on fee on a 2-3 year deal then it's a great deal. See loads when these types are linked where people say we'll not pay what he's on now, that's probably true but if a lot of clubs will say similar so he might have to accept a lower wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's another one though, is he going to get £200k a week elsewhere? If he comes here on £100-120k with just the signing-on fee on a 2-3 year deal then it's a great deal. See loads when these types are linked where people say we'll not pay what he's on now, that's probably true but if a lot of clubs will say similar so he might have to accept a lower wage. If he’s 34 when his potential contract with us expires, it means we’ll be wasting money on an aged player who is keeping a better younger player out of the team. I’m all for wise old heads in the team/squad (Trippier etc), but can’t see that level of leadership from Jorginho to justify the wages/age etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Haven't seen Tielemans play for a few years, thought he was generally fucking rubbish the other day. Mind, he was playing against us I suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Getting a young player of Jorginho’s ability would cost like £40m+, with no Premiership experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Never had much interest in Tielemans tbh. Jorginho would fill the Bruno role perfectly if we wanted to push him back into the 8 role though. Chelsea fans absolutely despise him like but they seem to hate all of their players and managers all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He's another one though, is he going to get £200k a week elsewhere? If he comes here on £100-120k with just the signing-on fee on a 2-3 year deal then it's a great deal. See loads when these types are linked where people say we'll not pay what he's on now, that's probably true but if a lot of clubs will say similar so he might have to accept a lower wage. If it’s a £100k a week deal for 2.5 years and about a £10m fee then it’s ideal. Anything higher than that ballpark and I don’t think we’d be interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Howe's talked a lot about getting the average age of the squad down so I'd be surprised to see a 31-year old pitch up. That said, if we're shedding Shelvey, Dummett, Ritchie & Gillespie in the next 6 months he might want to add one more experienced head, two or three younger ones and he's still then got the average down. Jorginho though, personally I don't see it. Our midfield are high-energy and he's very much a "metronome" player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 A year or so ago, I would have been delighted with Tielemans. Over the last year or so it does feel like he's regressed a little though. Howe could work wonders for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Getting a young player of Jorginho’s ability would cost like £40m+, with no Premiership experience. Which we’d have to purchase anyway in 2 or 3 years time when Jorginho retires or can’t play anymore. Or else we can get a player for cheaper with the potential of Jorginho and develop him to fit our style and ethos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Same people every window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Pilko said: Howe's talked a lot about getting the average age of the squad down so I'd be surprised to see a 31-year old pitch up. That said, if we're shedding Shelvey, Dummett, Ritchie & Gillespie in the next 6 months he might want to add one more experienced head, two or three younger ones and he's still then got the average down. Jorginho though, personally I don't see it. Our midfield are high-energy and he's very much a "metronome" player. Other than Trippier we're going to have very little experience of Champions League football in the squad if that's where we're aiming. Someone like Jorginho could be perfect for a couple of years. I know Botman and Bruno and one or two others have had a season in it but we're raw on experience in terms of challenging for European positions in this league and playing at that level consistently. Our current players in the experienced bracket don't have that sort of high level experience so as you say, if we're getting shot of 3-4 of those, the odd one or two like Jorginho will be great to add. Edited December 28, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I don't take much notice of the media reports, the likes of Hope and co were adamant that there was restricted money the last two windows and didn't have a clue when the Isak signing happened. It will be much the same this window also. Edited December 28, 2022 by et tu brute Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Other than Trippier we're going to have very little experience of Champions League football in the squad if that's where we're aiming. Someone like Jorginho could be perfect for a couple of years. I know Botman and Bruno and one or two others have had a season in it but we're raw on experience in terms of challenging for European positions in this league and playing at that level consistently. Our current players in the experienced bracket don't have that sort of high level experience so as you say, if we're getting shot of 3-4 of those, the odd one or two like Jorginho will be great to add. Jorginho is a good player in the right system where they play a patient passing game like Chelsea, but I just don’t think he’s suited to Howes pressing/fitness game. Experience counts for nothing unless he would pass that on to the younger players like Trippier does- just can’t see that leadership/senior player role in him to justify the signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 “The Italian, 31, has six months left on his deal and the Blues are reluctant to negotiate fresh terms. That has alerted Newcastle, with insiders seeing the rationale in bringing in a player of experience in a deep-lying role, especially if a relatively minimal fee could be agreed.” If there’s truth in this and Howe’s on board, I’ve got no doubt he’d be quality for a season or three. Massive “if”, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, et tu brute said: I don't take much notice of the media reports, the likes of Hope and co were adamant that there was restricted money the last two windows and didn't have a clue when the Isak signing happened. It will be much the same this window also. I’m here for your hatred of the media each transfer window ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just want it to be 1st January now. Let's get this window rolling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Manxst said: Jorginho is a good player in the right system where they play a patient passing game like Chelsea, but I just don’t think he’s suited to Howes pressing/fitness game. Experience counts for nothing unless he would pass that on to the younger players like Trippier does- just can’t see that leadership/senior player role in him to justify the signing. I don't think Howe would sign him if he didn't believe that he'd fit his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I don't think Howe would sign him if he didn't believe that he'd fit his game. Which is why I don’t think Howe will sign him. I think it’s just media/agent talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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