SUPERTOON Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Downie saying Maxi could leave this month. been a slow month lads? What a thick quote, if we sell someone we might buy someone, Downie is up there with the worst of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Downie saying Maxi could leave this month. been a slow month lads? Doesn’t add up at all. We’re light in midfield. We need to add to it instead of selling one of our best players in hope that someone could replace him with the same impact. I don’t think anything will happen until the last few days and that will be incomings. There will only be anyone leaving until we’ve brought in a replacement first if think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 BREAKING NEWS - “If they get some money they might spend it I think, maybe, but don’t count on it but it’s possible” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Downie saying Maxi could leave this month. been a slow month lads? What an absolute rectangle downie is. IF BUT MAYBE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 If we sell ASM I'd hope we would get some money for him like. Maybe don't let Heron be part of the negotiations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Shak said: If we sell ASM I'd hope we would get some money for him like. Maybe don't let Heron be part of the negotiations. Chelsea and at least 60m comes to mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: BREAKING NEWS - “If they get some money they might spend it I think, maybe, but don’t count on it but it’s possible” UPDATE: They can sign someone if they find a player who they want and need and who fits, but they wont sign a player they don't want and don't need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: What a thick quote, if we sell someone we might buy someone, Downie is up there with the worst of them. Agreed, he is basically saying nothing. Could be said about every team / squad / player in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 If this happens this could happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I think we're open to selling him tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) He'll have been asked about it specifically i reckon. If you ever see him as a guest on any of the many podcasts he goes on, that's how it tends to work. He gets asked if he's heard anything or what his feeling is on transfers about specific players. Edited January 17, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Do think he is seen as expendable now, but don't think he will go till the Summer. Anyone who would make a bid/desperate bid in Jan (Forest for example) he isn't going to want to go to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 We really aren't used to squad depth are we? The idea of your (at worst) 13th man being "expendable" is bottom-half thinking. All the worst when that player - at best - would be a top 4 best player in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, gbandit said: If there is genuine interest from Forest I’d be going all out to find a young and upcoming striker like Joao Pedro who isn’t going to command a huge fee and still needs to develop a fair bit. Could potentially be our best chance to offload our friendly kiwi Jao Pedro will command a huge fee. We couldn't get him through the door for £30m, and he's gone from strength to strength this season in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Just now, TRon said: Jao Pedro will command a huge fee. We couldn't get him through the door for £30m, and he's gone from strength to strength this season in the championship. Sounds like we were very close to landing him for circa £25m before Watford pulled the plug and we turned our attentions to Isak. Since then he’s looked very good but has picked up several injuries and is currently laid off for at least another month. If he hadn’t signed the contract extension and been injured I’d want us to go for him but his price and injury record means we should look at someone who’s earlier in their development than him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: We really aren't used to squad depth are we? The idea of your (at worst) 13th man being "expendable" is bottom-half thinking. All the worst when that player - at best - would be a top 4 best player in the team. Or, he could be replaced with someone better and/or more suited to our game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Or, he could be replaced with someone better and/or more suited to our game? But ASM doesnt need replacing within our current sqaud. Fraser does, Murphy does, Wood does because those players are 3rd/4th choice in their respective positions. We need to replace those players with higher quality who can challenge the likes of ASM for a starring XI spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Thumbheed said: Or, he could be replaced with someone better and/or more suited to our game? Aye - he might become expendable if that happens - but it hasn't happened. Even then, that player replaces one of Willock, Longstaff or Joelinton. ASM would still be one of the first 2 attacking moves off the bench or dropped in because of injury. That's not an expendable player imo. We may well move him on in the summer for someone better suited. But as of now, he's crucial to us. He's likely to start on the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Shak said: If we sell ASM I'd hope we would get some money for him like. Wew, settle down Shak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mazzy said: But ASM doesnt need replacing within our current sqaud. Fraser does, Murphy does, Wood does because those players are 3rd/4th choice in their respective positions. We need to replace those players with higher quality who can challenge the likes of ASM for a starring XI spot. Agreed, he doesn't, but he's the only player 'on the fringes' who's got any resale value so having the opportunity of improving on our bette players can in some way become more important to the team than improving on the likes of Fraser - at this stage anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Aye - he might become expendable if that happens - but it hasn't happened. Even then, that player replaces one of Willock, Longstaff or Joelinton. ASM would still be one of the first 2 attacking moves off the bench or dropped in because of injury. That's not an expendable player imo. We may well move him on in the summer for someone better suited. But as of now, he's crucial to us. He's likely to start on the weekend. Don't disagree with any of that tbf, just saying that given the opportunity to sell him and replace him with someone more suited to the team then I think the club would do that on the basis that outside of him, there's no other player outside the first team that would command any sort of fee that would make replacing them particularly easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) You need a squad to compete on multiple fronts, especially given the likely scenario where we're going to be playing some form of European football next season. You don't build one by selling your better players. Edited January 17, 2023 by HaydnNUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I dont think anyone's arguing that you don't need to build a squad or that the likes of Fraser and Murphy don't need improving on, just that given the chance the club would sell ASM because they feel they can improve on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 The ideal way to build a squad would to be bring in players direct to the first team, the player who's place is taken then becomes back up. Obviously there are exceptions such as bringing in young players with high potential ceilings. There are other factors to consider though. Is the player happy as back up? What's he like in the dressing room? Would the cash give us more wiggle room under FFP? etc. We need to a build a squad, but there are factors that mean we might consider a decent offer for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The ideal way to build a squad would to be bring in players direct to the first team, the player who's place is taken then becomes back up. Obviously there are exceptions such as bringing in young players with high potential ceilings. There are other factors to consider though. Is the player happy as back up? What's he like in the dressing room? Would the cash give us more wiggle room under FFP? etc. We need to a build a squad, but there are factors that mean we might consider a decent offer for him. Unfortunately this, money doesn’t grow on trees (despite the fact I think FFP is a myth but I’ve learned my lesson from last time) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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