Now That's What I Call Transfer Rumours! 7

[Lenny]

45 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

So, if it's a choice between winger and CM it's a no brainer for me - winger 100%

It's a bit of a double edged sword whichever way your preference lies really, if it's a case of one or the other. 

Both options result in a detrimental impact to our other key players. 

 

Based on the treatment that Bruno received against Brighton, you'd expect it's going to become a recurring theme, and therefore signing another quality midfielder is arguably critical to Bruno's season.

And conversely, the same applies to ASM if we don't buy another winger. 

 

My preference, if it is strictly one or the other would be a CM because I think Almiron offers more to the team in RW than Willock does in CM. 

Ideally, we want to be in a place whereby the opposition simply cannot afford to double up on our players for risk of freeing up another equality dangerous player. 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by Lenny

[Happinesstan]

5 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

Most probably, still a shame to buy Isak for £60m and then play him out wide. Hope we get another signing in. Still an inury to Bruno away from being quite an average side. 

Not really. As long as you're not asking him to play the winger role.

He starts in the position the fb is tasked with marking him, he just needs  to drift into a natural forward position and that opens up space for Miggy, Bruno and Trippier to do damage. Trippier crosses into Wood, who fucks up and Alex taps in the knockdown.

[Coffee_Johnny]

12 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

Most probably, still a shame to buy Isak for £60m and then play him out wide. Hope we get another signing in. Still an inury to Bruno away from being quite an average side. 

Playing wide hasn’t done Salah’s goal scoring any harm—on track to be Liverpool’s top scorer. Not saying they are the same, just that in the right formation, system and with the right personnel, he could still score shedloads from there. 

[KaKa]

10 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

Most probably, still a shame to buy Isak for £60m and then play him out wide. Hope we get another signing in. Still an inury to Bruno away from being quite an average side. 

 

Like @Happinesstan just stated there is a difference between hugging the touchline as a winger, and having a more narrow free role as a wide forward.

 

If Isak starts in that wide right position it would be as a wide forward with the freedom to move into more central areas and tuck in behind the striker to receive the ball in pockets of space, as well as also to look to make runs in behind when the striker drops into space. He'd be operating a lot in the right side half spaces in that role too, which is something he excels at, as I think the Tifo video highlighted.

 

Defensively, in order to keep Isak high up the pitch I could see us getting another Joelinton type, so someone like Conor Gallagher for example, to play in that RCM role, who could then come across and help to cover marauding full backs so Isak doesn't have to track all the way back. We did this against Man City on the other side in order to keep ASM high up the pitch to exploit space left by Walker on that left hand side, and get ASM into advantageous positions on the counter and cause them loads of problems.

 

 

[STM]

I think it would be quite weird to complain about Isak potentially not getting enough game time through the middle, given the amount of whinging we've all been doing about Wilson being injury prone.

 

Isak will just have to prove he's worthy of that central role, when he gets his chances.

[SUPERTOON]

12 minutes ago, STM said:

I think it would be quite weird to complain about Isak potentially not getting enough game time through the middle, given the amount of whinging we've all been doing about Wilson being injury prone.

 

Isak will just have to prove he's worthy of that central role, when he gets his chances.

Or we can be a normal side who rotates players to avoid them getting long term injuries.

[The Prophet]

Strange window so far mind. Don't get me wrong, signing two players of the quality of Botman and Isak is sensational stuff, but at the start of the window I'd have though CM and RW were the priority.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

Strange window so far mind. Don't get me wrong, signing two players of the quality of Botman and Isak is sensational stuff, but at the start of the window I'd have though CM and RW were the priority.

I definitely think RW was/is priority, but having not been able to land Diaby or Harrison they have moved to other areas and may end up getting a loan in to cover that area for a season.

[Happinesstan]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Strange window so far mind. Don't get me wrong, signing two players of the quality of Botman and Isak is sensational stuff, but at the start of the window I'd have though CM and RW were the priority.

LCB was a priority because we had no cover for Burn. Think we went beyond what was needed, but it's all good. Been proven a wise decision with Targett missing two games.

[gbandit]

They’ve said it all along though that they are looking for a certain level of player. It’s clear our approach is to buy between the age of 22-24 where possible. Still, there must have been some RWs in that bracket we looked at and just didn’t think we could get it done, e.g. Diaby. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we get him at a later date, provided we continue to push on 

[Happinesstan]

Just now, gbandit said:

They’ve said it all along though that they are looking for a certain level of player. It’s clear our approach is to buy between the age of 22-24 where possible. Still, there must have been some RWs in that bracket we looked at and just didn’t think we could get it done, e.g. Diaby. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we get him at a later date, provided we continue to push on 

We were apparently trying to get Cornet on a structured deal, but we thought that was due to limited spending ability. Not sure what to think, tbh. And that's good because it probably means the selling clubs are also in the dark.

[Stottie]

6 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Strange window so far mind. Don't get me wrong, signing two players of the quality of Botman and Isak is sensational stuff, but at the start of the window I'd have though CM and RW were the priority.

 

For me CF (at least as cover) and RW were the priorities. The strange detour for me was the pursuit of Maddison. Paqueta I could understand from his versatility and physicality, but Maddison is too dedicated an AM to simply slot into the team as we've been playing. He's a fantastic player, but I think we'd need tactical changes to accommodate him.

[STM]

Pulisic or Gallagher loan would be nice.

 

Who else have we been linked to that we may revisit? Loan deal with option for Asensio?

[jack j]

Quiet weekend with the match Sunday then full steam ahead from Monday a reckon. Think we'll get 2 more

The isak transfers gave me the buzz back

[toontownman]

Can see our targets meerkating after the Man City game and now Isak. Could definitely see players that were unsure pushing for a move now. Fingers crossed Diaby/Maddison!

[Guest HTT II]

I think Howe eventually wants us to be set up like how LFC play, offensively anyway, in the final 3rd. 3 attackers, once central, two wide.

[The College Dropout]

11 minutes ago, Stottie said:

 

For me CF (at least as cover) and RW were the priorities. The strange detour for me was the pursuit of Maddison. Paqueta I could understand from his versatility and physicality, but Maddison is too dedicated an AM to simply slot into the team as we've been playing. He's a fantastic player, but I think we'd need tactical changes to accommodate him.

Maddison has played a fair amount on the right hand side of a midfield 3 with a 3 man attack ahead of him.

[Happinesstan]

16 minutes ago, Stottie said:

 

For me CF (at least as cover) and RW were the priorities. The strange detour for me was the pursuit of Maddison. Paqueta I could understand from his versatility and physicality, but Maddison is too dedicated an AM to simply slot into the team as we've been playing. He's a fantastic player, but I think we'd need tactical changes to accommodate him.

i agree, which is why I'm happy to believe that we were simply showing Lyon how much we were prepared to pay for Paqueta.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, HTT II said:

I think Howe eventually wants us to be set up like how LFC play, offensively anyway, in the final 3rd. 3 attackers, once central, two wide.

Aye but even then.. the iconic 3 has a false 9 allowing the wide players to play more centrally.

 

When Mane played centrally Salah played wider because there wasn't so much space to run into.

 

Wilson isn't that type of player. You can see a world where Wood drops deep and holds it up to link up.... but he's not shown that target man ability either.

[Happinesstan]

3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Aye but even then.. the iconic 3 has a false 9 allowing the wide players to play more centrally.

 

When Mane played centrally Salah played wider because there wasn't so much space to run into.

 

Wilson isn't that type of player. You can see a world where Wood drops deep and holds it up to link up.... but he's not shown that target man ability either.

Won't be a problem for us because Maxi isn't Mane. Having Wilson in the middle with Isak drifting in from the right channel, will terrify defences.

 

EDIT 

admittedly I've misinterpreted what you were saying.

 

 

Edited August 26, 2022 by Happinesstan

[Guest HTT II]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Aye but even then.. the iconic 3 has a false 9 allowing the wide players to play more centrally.

 

When Mane played centrally Salah played wider because there wasn't so much space to run into.

 

Wilson isn't that type of player. You can see a world where Wood drops deep and holds it up to link up.... but he's not shown that target man ability either.

Wilson and King regularly swapped roles (played deeper to one another) at times at Bournemouth!

[David Edgar]

Been 13 minutes without a signing.

[jack j]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Strange window so far mind. Don't get me wrong, signing two players of the quality of Botman and Isak is sensational stuff, but at the start of the window I'd have though CM and RW were the priority.

We should just  sign maddison and call it a day a reckon

[LRD]

I'm bored. Who are we signing next?

[The College Dropout]

14 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Wilson and King regularly swapped roles (played deeper to one another) at times at Bournemouth!

They played as a 2 though. They had RM/LM in wide positions. We won't.