Rompe Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The team that takes the first penalty has an advantage under the old system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 it makes sense if there are solid numbers suggesting the team that goes first wins more often than those going second, otherwise pointless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 The team that takes the first penalty has an advantage under the old system. But they had to win the coin toss to choose, which is fair is it not ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Until now, in 25 years of supporting football I've never heard of anyone saying shootouts are unfair because they have gone 1st or 2nd. Where has this come from?! Someones arse. You have coin toss for the winner of that to decide whether they go first or second, as fair as it can ever get. How is a coin toss to give one team a 60% chance of winning as fair as it can ever get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 it makes sense if there are solid numbers suggesting the team that goes first wins more often than those going second, otherwise pointless Aye, 60% of teams that go first win apparently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 it makes sense if there are solid numbers suggesting the team that goes first wins more often than those going second, otherwise pointless Aye, 60% of teams that go first win apparently doesn't seem that overwhelming guess that's what trials are for btw have they ever trialled anything major that didn't get implemented in the end? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Until now, in 25 years of supporting football I've never heard of anyone saying shootouts are unfair because they have gone 1st or 2nd. Where has this come from?! Someones arse. You have coin toss for the winner of that to decide whether they go first or second, as fair as it can ever get. How is a coin toss to give one team a 60% chance of winning as fair as it can ever get? The coin toss is a 50/50 isn't it. Then the winner of that can go 1st or 2nd, that's as fair as you can get. Fucking about with a straight forward penalty shootout, something no team has ever complained about when they've gone second is utter nonsense. It's fiddling with rules that are ok, instead of changing the ones which are dumb as feck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Until now, in 25 years of supporting football I've never heard of anyone saying shootouts are unfair because they have gone 1st or 2nd. Where has this come from?! Someones arse. You have coin toss for the winner of that to decide whether they go first or second, as fair as it can ever get. How is a coin toss to give one team a 60% chance of winning as fair as it can ever get? The coin toss is a 50/50 isn't it. Then the winner of that can go 1st or 2nd, that's as fair as you can get. Fucking about with a straight forward penalty shootout, something no team has ever complained about when they've gone second is utter nonsense. It's fiddling with rules that are ok, instead of changing the ones which are dumb as feck. But a coin toss isn't fair. It's nothing to do with how good a team is at football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 it makes sense if there are solid numbers suggesting the team that goes first wins more often than those going second, otherwise pointless Aye, 60% of teams that go first win apparently doesn't seem that overwhelming guess that's what trials are for btw have they ever trialled anything major that didn't get implemented in the end? Kick-ins were trialled in the Southern League some time in the 90s iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Get a load of old man bimpy over here. Probably just got done printing a pamphlet on his gutenberg press complaining about horseless carriages. edit: safety Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Until now, in 25 years of supporting football I've never heard of anyone saying shootouts are unfair because they have gone 1st or 2nd. Where has this come from?! Someones arse. You have coin toss for the winner of that to decide whether they go first or second, as fair as it can ever get. How is a coin toss to give one team a 60% chance of winning as fair as it can ever get? The coin toss is a 50/50 isn't it. Then the winner of that can go 1st or 2nd, that's as fair as you can get. Fucking about with a straight forward penalty shootout, something no team has ever complained about when they've gone second is utter nonsense. It's fiddling with rules that are ok, instead of changing the ones which are dumb as feck. But a coin toss isn't fair. It's nothing to do with how good a team is at football Do you really want to see the penalty shootout turned into a game of tennis tie break because of a percentage that sometimes says it might be unfair ? I don't, it's nonsense. I have to ref the fucking things, it's ok when there's 5 fucking officials and Krytie TV helping, not when it's just me on me Jack Jones, with parents who think their little fuckwit diving spudfaced spacker has been treated unfairly. Fuck off with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Get a load of old man bimpy over here. Probably just got done printing a pamphlet on his gutenberg press complaining about horseless carriages. i am a bit old school with the reffing like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If it is 60% first kick takers win that is hugely statistically significant actually and definitely deserves to be changed. Just because it's random which team gets the advantage doesn't mean that's fair. If you flipped a coin at the start of every game of football and gave 10% advantage to one team for teh whole match in any form it would be ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 it makes sense if there are solid numbers suggesting the team that goes first wins more often than those going second, otherwise pointless Aye, 60% of teams that go first win apparently doesn't seem that overwhelming guess that's what trials are for btw have they ever trialled anything major that didn't get implemented in the end? Golden and silver goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 That's from years ago yet still makes me laugh everytime I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 https://www.facebook.com/962166613842526/videos/1585719674820547/ Scum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Ah those lovely Celtic fans at it again. Rank club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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henke Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 btw have they ever trialled anything major that didn't get implemented in the end? Yeah, the rule where the ref could move a free kick ten yards closer to the goal for dissent etc. Everyone though it was a good idea, they trialed it and most people said it was successful. Then the referees forgot about it, it died a death and FIFA scrapped it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Totally forgot about that rule, recall it being a bit flawed at times with Beckham (iirc) not wanting the ball moved forward as it would make it harder for him to dip it over the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Totally forgot about that rule, recall it being a bit flawed at times with Beckham (iirc) not wanting the ball moved forward as it would make it harder for him to dip it over the wall. I thought it was a great rule and iirc the initial response was almost all positive. In the Beckham situation it wouldn't have been too difficult to modify so the attacking team could decline the ball being moved. And years later abusing refs is still an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Aye I remember it being a decent deterrent in general like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 should make you remove people from the wall or something - that would surely cause a storm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Until now, in 25 years of supporting football I've never heard of anyone saying shootouts are unfair because they have gone 1st or 2nd. Where has this come from?! Someones arse. You have coin toss for the winner of that to decide whether they go first or second, as fair as it can ever get. How is a coin toss to give one team a 60% chance of winning as fair as it can ever get? The coin toss is a 50/50 isn't it. Then the winner of that can go 1st or 2nd, that's as fair as you can get. Fucking about with a straight forward penalty shootout, something no team has ever complained about when they've gone second is utter nonsense. It's fiddling with rules that are ok, instead of changing the ones which are dumb as feck. But a coin toss isn't fair. It's nothing to do with how good a team is at football Aye, but once this rule comes into force what happens if there is a statistic somewhere that says the team going second wins 60.3743% of the time? Do we now say it's unfair for the team going first and we now need to revert back to the old method? Professional footballers not being able to cope with the stress of going second in a shootout, give me fucking strength - no wonder people say they are wrapped in cotton wool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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