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Anybody just not find football fun any longer? Maybe it's just because I'm a Newcastle supporter and I'm so used to absolute shit.

I feel a little bit of this creeping in and my Dad certainly does. It's not a sport anymore it's an elitest entertainment business.
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Anybody just not find football fun any longer? Maybe it's just because I'm a Newcastle supporter and I'm so used to absolute s***.

 

As you get older and other things take priority in your life, football becomes a chore or has done for me. Its extremely boring these days, far too sanitised, commercialised and very uncompetitive. I don’t enjoy it at all. I love football though, especially playing it, and it boils my piss the way it is today.

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Anybody just not find football fun any longer? Maybe it's just because I'm a Newcastle supporter and I'm so used to absolute shit.

 

I was happy to follow us when we were shit. But now we intentionally under achieve, to maximize profit - fuck that!

Despite the last ten years I'm now looking for an excuse to hoy the towel in. I can see Rafa leaving being the final straw but it's just a matter of time.

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Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

Absolutely this. English football is rank these days.

Agreed with for years, but the Premier League has been outstanding this season.
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Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

Absolutely this. English football is rank these days.

Agreed with for years, but the Premier League has been outstanding this season.

 

For 19 teams... :lol: None of which will win it.

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Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

Absolutely this. English football is rank these days.

Agreed with for years, but the Premier League has been outstanding this season.

 

For 19 teams... [emoji38] None of which will win it.

There are probably 5 teams that can win the league on a season by season basis. That's better than most leagues and the quality's improved since Pep came over.
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Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

Absolutely this. English football is rank these days.

Agreed with for years, but the Premier League has been outstanding this season.

 

For 19 teams... [emoji38] None of which will win it.

There are probably 5 teams that can win the league on a season by season basis. That's better than most leagues and the quality's improved since Pep came over.

Not this season though. [emoji38]
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Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

Absolutely this. English football is rank these days.

Agreed with for years, but the Premier League has been outstanding this season.

 

For 19 teams... [emoji38] None of which will win it.

There are probably 5 teams that can win the league on a season by season basis. That's better than most leagues and the quality's improved since Pep came over.

Not this season though. [emoji38]

Season on season. This season it's Man City and there's no race, but Man United, Chelsea, Spurs, Man City and Liverpool are all capable.
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Anybody just not find football fun any longer? Maybe it's just because I'm a Newcastle supporter and I'm so used to absolute shit.

I think about this sometimes and since around 2009 onwards the excitement has gradually sapped out of me. Obviously I still love it but nothing like as a kid. I think it must be an age thing.

 

I still sometimes watch old MOTD's on YT from like 1998-2000 era cause I remember as a kid been allowed to stay up to watch them from time to time and been absolutely buzzing for it :lol:

 

Also as I type this I've just remembered teletext. 302 for football news and 303 for the scores right?

 

I remember I'd goto 303 on a Saturday during the game every 10-15 minutes and I'd plant my face right up to my T.V at the far left and gradually move it the right to see the scores revealing.... 'Newcastle 1...YESSS......- 5 Man U' Fuckkkk.

 

Seem to remember Liverpool always fucking beating us one season in 98/98 era.

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Anybody just not find football fun any longer? Maybe it's just because I'm a Newcastle supporter and I'm so used to absolute shit.

I think about this sometimes and since around 2009 onwards the excitement has gradually sapped out of me. Obviously I still love it but nothing like as a kid. I think it must be an age thing.

 

I still sometimes watch old MOTD's on YT from like 1998-2000 era cause I remember as a kid been allowed to stay up to watch them from time to time and been absolutely buzzing for it :lol:

 

Also as I type this I've just remembered teletext. 302 for football news and 303 for the scores right?

 

I remember I'd goto 303 on a Saturday during the game every 10-15 minutes and I'd plant my face right up to my T.V at the far left and gradually move it the right to see the scores revealing.... 'Newcastle 1...YESSS......- 5 Man U' Fuckkkk.

 

Seem to remember Liverpool always fucking beating us one season in 98/98 era.

 

Only times I've felt that youthful excitement over football as an adult was whenever Ben Arfa had the ball for us.

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I've been excited as f*** since Rafa's came in, I've never wanted to miss a match for the past 18 months. First half of last season was just brilliant. Might've been Championship football but it was the most enthusiasm I've felt for the Toon since I've been a fan, albeit that's a short while compared to some of you lot.

 

Before Rafa, I wasn't apathetic but I was a bit less arsed. Under McClaren especially. For Pardew you could just despise the man after the Reading home defeat or the end of 2012/13 completely, and Carver you could laugh at. McClaren was just an uninspiring, wet flannel.

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This might have been posted on here before but I've not seen it, heard about it on James Richardson's new Serie A podcast. It's long and in two parts but it's fascinating: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2740487-inside-the-stalker-hell-of-italian-footballer-fabio-quagliarella

 

Piccolo is a c*** :thup:

 

Had to laugh about the part when they discovered that the stalker's grammar style matched that of Piccolo. :lol:

 

Aye, those bloody commas :lol:

 

I know it's written as a story / timeline so you get suspicious of characters etc, but the minute the police reports were done "privately", they should of realised, like :lol:

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I've been thinking the exact opposite actually (KI). This feels like the most pointless Premier League season I can remember.

 

Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

I agree, I enjoy following these leagues much more than the Premier League at the moment. Despite dominance of a particular club/clubs at the top, there feels like there's more competition further down the table and that games between mid-table clubs actually mean something, might lead to one of them having a memorable season. Teams like Sociedad, Betis, Atalanta, Sampdoria, Celta, Udinese are interesting teams who you've got a good chance of seeing an entertaining match from.

 

The bottom (almost) three quarters of the Premier League this season is going to be like one of those African leagues where they all finish within about five points of each other. None of them are going to think they've had a good season, none of them are any good, none of them are worth watching, none of them can beat the teams above them. They just nick points off each other here and there, attempt damage limitation when anyone above Leicester turns up and the three that go down are no better or worse than the other ten, they're just the ones still standing when the music happens to stop after game 38.

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I remember I'd goto 303 on a Saturday during the game every 10-15 minutes and I'd plant my face right up to my T.V at the far left and gradually move it the right to see the scores revealing.... 'Newcastle 1...YESSS......- 5 Man U' Fuckkkk.

 

:lol: :thup:

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I've been thinking the exact opposite actually (KI). This feels like the most pointless Premier League season I can remember.

 

Plenty of enjoyment can be found in La Liga and Serie A.

 

I agree, I enjoy following these leagues much more than the Premier League at the moment. Despite dominance of a particular club/clubs at the top, there feels like there's more competition further down the table and that games between mid-table clubs actually mean something, might lead to one of them having a memorable season. Teams like Sociedad, Betis, Atalanta, Sampdoria, Celta, Udinese are interesting teams who you've got a good chance of seeing an entertaining match from.

 

The bottom (almost) three quarters of the Premier League this season is going to be like one of those African leagues where they all finish within about five points of each other. None of them are going to think they've had a good season, none of them are any good, none of them are worth watching, none of them can beat the teams above them. They just nick points off each other here and there, attempt damage limitation when anyone above Leicester turns up and the three that go down are no better or worse than the other ten, they're just the ones still standing when the music happens to stop after game 38.

 

:thup:

 

I've been watching quite abit of Ligue 1 this season. Particularly St Etienne and Lille as they are both just above the drop. French teams, excluding Caen, generally play to win, not to lose. To many PL teams are looking down rather than up and it's f***ing boring now watching 0-0s / 1-0s and matches with 3 shots on target.

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The sheer amount of money that is at stake if a club is relegated now is having an inverse effect on the quality at the bottom end of the table IMO. There is huge sums being thrown at players, and the quality (or at least raw financial value) of squads is way higher than any other league, but the standard of play is seeing diminishing returns as a result of what's at stake. The kind of people who are getting involved in buying clubs (Ashley is of course one example) are so often predatory, with zero emotional connection to the clubs, where the reason they're getting involved is because of the TV money gravy train. This encourages a safety at all costs mentality that spreads down to boardroom decision making, to the coaching level, and to the playing staff.

 

Now I don't think this terror in the face of relegation is a particularly unique thing about the English game. I've followed Italian football long enough to know that managerial turnover for struggling teams there borders on insanity. However I think there is a particular intensity that the current finances of the PL are having on the way club's operate and the way teams play. Teams in Spain, Germany and Italy aren't quite as terrified of relegation because the impact of it isn't quite so disastrous and many of them are set up structurally in a way that transition to the 2nd tier is manageable. It means the lower and mid-table teams have (IMO) a bit more freedom about the way they play, the trust they place in implementing a style of play, and also a trust they have in throwing in young players at the deep end.

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The strength of the English 2nd tier has an impact on that too, admittedly. If a big Italian or Spanish team gets sucked into relegation there's a pretty good chance they can re-adjust and bounce back in a thinly spread second tier. If an English club goes down, they're thrown into a bear pit. This exacerbates the financial fallout that PL relegation causes.

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Anybody just not find football fun any longer? Maybe it's just because I'm a Newcastle supporter and I'm so used to absolute shit.

 

I enjoy Internationals. Other than NUFC they're all I bother with these days.

 

:thup: despite my country being absolute shit, I agree.

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