Alexander Isak - C*nt (resting his glass bones so he can get properly injured at the world cup)

[The College Dropout]

12 minutes ago, jack j said:

What do people think the realistic outcome of this is going to be then?

I've been convinced he goes ever since it all came out

But it seems another day is going to tick by without anything happening and we genuinely don't seem like we will move on the price we want...

 

Maybes Isak will escalate it and refuse to go into train on his own or summit

(1) If Liverpool don't give us our number, he stays and is reintegrated - probably with a new contract with a release clause and a statement.

 

(2) If Liverpool give us our figure. He may end up staying if we can't land a proper replacement (eg not just Wissa, we need someone else). We might panic into a Jackson at £60m but I doubt it.

 

(3) If Liverpool get us our figure and we get a replacement, he goes.

 

I think 2 is most likely. Liverpool get us the figure but we don't land a replacement and keep him, or panic into a replacement.

[et tu brute]

Just now, St. Maximin said:

I may be in the minority here, but for the right price I don’t really care if he signs for Liverpool and we use the money to get another decent striker in. They aren’t our rivals and unfortunately it seems we’re not allowed to compete with them anyway, plus I’m all for giving them and Isak stick when they play us - all for a bit of spice here. 
 

Would be funny seeing him in our reserves mind. 

Firstly we need to get two strikers of sufficient quality and then Liverpool need to match our exact valuation. I can't see either happening before the end of the window. 

[thomas]

kids: mom can we have pardew thread

 

mom: we have pardew thread at home 

 

the pardew thread at home: 

[Tiresias]

I get that in some sense, but also shows how ridiculous all this money is, like £40m is  HUUUUGE amount of money...

[et tu brute]

Just now, Tiresias said:

I get that in some sense, but also shows how ridiculous all this money is, like £40m is  HUUUUGE amount of money...

Especially with the current PSR rules

[Tiresias]

By the way I suspect Liverpool will bid again closer to our evaluation late in window and we will accept it just to get him out the club. A lot will be furious and rightly so as it will show their ridiculous entitlement will have worked but I am dubious we can reintegrate. Maybe just pessimistic. 

[Kanj]

30 to 40m lands you Wissa or Thiaw so ya every pound counts. 

[The College Dropout]

When Pardew joined we still hadn't fully figured out the Ashley agenda. So judging Pardew at the time was difficult.

 

he is a slimey guy which doesn't help him. That slime is part of what made him a success for Ashley.

 

Bruce was a bit too dour. He was trying to do the Ashley-apologist thing but he came across defensive and bitter at all times. Pardew would attempt to BS everyone and minimise who he would upset.

 

Your Carver's and SMC's were just no good at anything.

 

Your Hughton's and Rafa's were incompatible with Ashley. Too much honour and integrity. Fan favourites but that can't last under Ashley.

 

Most important person at a football club is the owner for me. Everything follows the Owner. Pardew was a middle-of-the-pack manager ability-wise for us but the best manager for Ashley, which made him a bigger problem for us fans.

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

By the way I suspect Liverpool will bid again closer to our evaluation late in window and we will accept it just to get him out the club. A lot will be furious and rightly so as it will show their ridiculous entitlement will have worked but I am dubious we can reintegrate. Maybe just pessimistic. 

We can't let him go if we don't have a replacement.

[christ]

I can’t see him going this window, because I don’t think Liverpool will get close enough to our valuation and there’s no readymade replacement available. 
 

He stays, gets reintergrated into the squad after the international break and there’s a truce until January/next summer when he eventually leaves.

[Kid Icarus]

Liverpool set the groundwork for that 'given encouragement by Newcastle' bollocks last time so it seems clear that they're going to bid again this week and then be all "whaaaaaat? We said we wouldn't do it without encouragemeeeent!"

[TRon]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

We can't let him go if we don't have a replacement.

 

There are no realistic replacements now anyway, best we could do is invest in a young hopeful like Samu and pair him with Wissa and hope to replace the goals that way. But even that depends on Liverpool meeting the acceptable selling price for Isak which seems unlikely. 

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

There are no realistic replacements now anyway, best we could do is invest in a young hopeful like Samu and pair him with Wissa and hope to replace the goals that way. But even that depends on Liverpool meeting the acceptable selling price for Isak which seems unlikely. 

Yeh a replacement is a Samu-like player or Watkins. We could panic into a Jackson though.

[Matt1892]

We should look at something creative like loaning him to PSG with Ramos coming here on loan, with an option of making it permanent if it works out next summer.

 

I don’t care if they are getting the better deal over the season, I just don’t think we can trust him on the pitch for us again.

[TRon]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

Yeh a replacement is a Samu-like player or Watkins. We could panic into a Jackson though.

 

Not if we are signing Wissa. As has already been pointed out in the Jackson thread that would mean both would be missing for the AFCON for more than a month.

[JUICE690]

We shouldn't do anything that hinders us whilst benefiting liverpool. Frustrating that Wissa still isn't done.

[1964]

21 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

We can't let him go if we don't have a replacement.

The later this goes, the less likely we are to sell.  If we cant get a suitable replacement then we aren't selling him

[Mattoon]

My prediction is that we get Wissa or Jackson to replace Wilson and move our focus to CM and leave Isak to sulk, then on the 2nd September we put a new contract in front of him with a release clause (if it's up to the Saudi's it will be a no Liverpool clause) and he will sign it and come back into the fold. Any further attempts to sign Isak from Liverpool will be met with a short, sharp, " do one", no way we sell him now, it seems pretty evident we don't feel any strikers left on the market offer up as an acceptable replacement for Isak.

[Deuce]

32 minutes ago, McEwan said:

My view on Pards is yeah, he was mostly crap, but

 

 

 

Gonna go ahead and stop you right there

[Skeletor]

People forget just how irritating having Pardew as our manager was. Everything about him was designed in a lab to be as irritating as possible.

[Joelinton7]

15 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

People forget just how irritating having Pardew as our manager was. Everything about him was designed in a lab to be as irritating as possible.

He used to gaslight us a lot

[Paully]

I’ll still be amazed if he kicks a ball for us again - sick of hearing about him! 

[samptime29]

1 minute ago, Paully said:

I’ll still be amazed if he kicks a ball for us again - sick of hearing about him! 

 

Surprised so many posters think he plays for us again. Just can't see it. 

[Cf]

1 hour ago, St. Maximin said:

I may be in the minority here, but for the right price I don’t really care if he signs for Liverpool and we use the money to get another decent striker in. They aren’t our rivals and unfortunately it seems we’re not allowed to compete with them anyway, plus I’m all for giving them and Isak stick when they play us - all for a bit of spice here, which we’d miss if he plays abroad. 
 

Would be funny seeing him in our reserves mind. 

 

 

 

 

Can people pleeeeassssseeeee stop saying this. 

 

We literally just beat them in a cup final. Their shiny new team just lost to Crystal Palace. 

 

They're our second game of the season. Beat them and we could be above them in the table for a bit. 

 

If we do well in the CL we may well face them in the knockout stages. 

 

We're obviously handicapped financially against them but the only way they're not our rivals if we accept the media narrative that they're our betters and fulfil the prophecy by giving them our best players. 

[SEMTEX]

Just drafted him first round for my FF team so could really do with this getting sorted. @Eddie