Yorkie Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We haven't done much to help the situation with how bad we have been in the market either have we. Not just him, but i would imagine a few other of out top players are looking at it and having doubts about our long term ambition. I'm finding it really galling continuously reading stuff like this when there is one issue alone - that being the rules. We've done everything we can to surround him with the best quality we can find but been prevented from doing so because the cartel clubs have total control of the market. Despite this we've signed a quality right-winger to add to the armory of assist-providers for Isak. If he wants to leave it's because the rules prevent us from giving him the wages he is due for being, arguably, the best striker in the world. We're not a well-oiled machine at the director/executive level, clearly, but you're just dancing around the issue if you're not squaring every ounce of angst at the bullshit rules which are designed to keep the top at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I would ignore the stated aim tbh, we don't act like a club with the aim of being number 1. Kind of the point I'm making. Without Howe we'd be nowhere near it being a realistic stated aim either. Edited July 24, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: This is like coming home from work to hear your wife and her gym instructor lifting weights in your bedroom with the door locked Sounds brutal personal experience there Dazzla lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green2025 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 8 minutes ago, Kimbo said: I can live with a sale to Saudi if he really wants to leave. Saudi sale does not do the club any favour. You can't use it for PSR as there's conflict of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Green2025 said: Saudi sale does not do the club any favour. You can't use it for PSR as there's conflict of interest. Is that true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Green2025 said: Saudi sale does not do the club any favour. You can't use it for PSR as there's conflict of interest. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, Green2025 said: Saudi sale does not do the club any favour. You can't use it for PSR as there's conflict of interest. PL you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, Green2025 said: Saudi sale does not do the club any favour. You can't use it for PSR as there's conflict of interest. You can but at a fair value. Given some of the prices theyve paid for others 150mill + could be a goer. Doubt he'd go though. Edited July 24, 2025 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'm finding it really galling continuously reading stuff like this when there is one issue alone - that being the rules. We've done everything we can to surround him with the best quality we can find but been prevented from doing so because the cartel clubs have total control of the market. Despite this we've signed a quality right-winger to add to the armory of assist-providers for Isak. If he wants to leave it's because the rules prevent us from giving him the wages he is due for being, arguably, the best striker in the world. We're not a well-oiled machine at the director/executive level, clearly, but you're just dancing around the issue if you're not squaring every ounce of angst at the bullshit rules which are designed to keep the top at the top. Your right but the rules which are place have been agreed by the league and as a club we have shown very little dissent for them. We as fans obviously loathe them and point out the unfairness of them but as usual with the club not a dickybird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 I don't believe for a second he'd want to go to Saudi, it'll be to CL capable winning team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowghoul Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 minute ago, ChrisMcQuillan said: Is that true? PL have the right to establish fair market value, so technically true but in reality it's not an issue, unless longstaff went for 200m etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'm finding it really galling continuously reading stuff like this when there is one issue alone - that being the rules. We've done everything we can to surround him with the best quality we can find but been prevented from doing so because the cartel clubs have total control of the market. Despite this we've signed a quality right-winger to add to the armory of assist-providers for Isak. If he wants to leave it's because the rules prevent us from giving him the wages he is due for being, arguably, the best striker in the world. We're not a well-oiled machine at the director/executive level, clearly, but you're just dancing around the issue if you're not squaring every ounce of angst at the bullshit rules which are designed to keep the top at the top. If you genuinely feel we have done everything we can then fair enough, i would strongly disagree. Saying we are not a well oiled machine is a massive understatement imo, we are a mess off the pitch. If we where a proper outfit off the pitch, then the other things you mention may not be as much of an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 minutes ago, Green2025 said: Saudi sale does not do the club any favour. You can't use it for PSR as there's conflict of interest. PL will attempt to mark it down to FMV. UEFA do not recognise profit from "APT". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Are we sure he’s leaving, did not miss the last friendly due to not being ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) Tbf we've done absolutely nothing to try and work around the rules either. It's all well and good bemoaning them, but other clubs, not just the cartel clubs are finding ways to work around them and to speculate to accumulate while we work within them, follow them to a T, and bear the cost of doing so. Moaning isn't a solution Edited July 24, 2025 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 He might be injured, but its absolutely pathetic going on a pre season tour without a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Just now, JT24 said: PL will attempt to mark it down to FMV. UEFA do not recognise profit from "APT". But recognise transfers between multiclub set ups. Gotta love UEFA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 The problem from a communication point of view is that Howe made a rod for his own back by saying he wasn't in Glasgow because of the speculation. Obviously he could have got injured or worsened an existing niggle since then which is why he isn't travelling but when you've already publicly given one reason for his absence, people are naturally going to assume that's the reason for his continued absence. Best case scenario he is injured and is going to have little to no preparation ahead of the season. For the first time since we secured CL qualification at the end of last season I now think it's more likely he goes than stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'm finding it really galling continuously reading stuff like this when there is one issue alone - that being the rules. We've done everything we can to surround him with the best quality we can find but been prevented from doing so because the cartel clubs have total control of the market. Despite this we've signed a quality right-winger to add to the armory of assist-providers for Isak. If he wants to leave it's because the rules prevent us from giving him the wages he is due for being, arguably, the best striker in the world. We're not a well-oiled machine at the director/executive level, clearly, but you're just dancing around the issue if you're not squaring every ounce of angst at the bullshit rules which are designed to keep the top at the top. It's just SUPERTOON criticising the transfer policy and speed again The transfer policy has won Isak a League Cup winners and runners medal and two Champions League finishes. That's despite the league doing everything to stop us from achieving that The way the forum reads at times is as if we're still being run by Ashley and Bruce Edited July 24, 2025 by joeyt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilovetoon8788 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 He has barely even participated in pre season with us. Signs are definitely written all over he's leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) Isak isn't going to Saudi ffs. Its a non-starter. It's either Liverpool or nothing would be my guess. Edited July 24, 2025 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I'm finding it really galling continuously reading stuff like this when there is one issue alone - that being the rules. We've done everything we can to surround him with the best quality we can find but been prevented from doing so because the cartel clubs have total control of the market. Despite this we've signed a quality right-winger to add to the armory of assist-providers for Isak. If he wants to leave it's because the rules prevent us from giving him the wages he is due for being, arguably, the best striker in the world. We're not a well-oiled machine at the director/executive level, clearly, but you're just dancing around the issue if you're not squaring every ounce of angst at the bullshit rules which are designed to keep the top at the top. Fuck me some sense at last! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 We are just at that ‘I want my future resolved now’ moment I think, and he’s not getting 300k here. Its either a compromise or he will likely be gone if that kind of number is the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famous Nick Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 this a joke. imagine we end up with a weaker squad for the CL season that the one that qualified for it. a new contract is a must for Isak, we need to improve his salary. Saudis need a big decision of how they want the Newcastle project to go. our top players will need to feel we will be regular CL side, not in for one year out of it the next 1/2. Spurs and Man Utd wont underperform so badly for so long, soon they will be back in the mix going for top5 places. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwopnufc Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) If he is leaving, we better be talking to Sesko right now Edited July 24, 2025 by nwopnufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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