TheGuv Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Can’t wait to see Wilson and Isaak up top together. If teams thought we played well before Xmas…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 It's great because I'm genuinely as excited to see him as I was when he signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheGuv said: Can’t wait to see Wilson and Isaak up top together. If teams thought we played well before Xmas…. He could possibly do the Almiron role if he drops out of form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: He could possibly do the Almiron role if he drops out of form. Or needs resting or if he brings something different and creates a new role. With better players we don't have to replicate like for like and play the same way game by game. Look at how we are varying game to game now. Edited November 15, 2022 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 It’s such a weird position to be in, dropping someone from this team ffs. I think in the end he’ll have plenty of time up front on his own but if he’s on the pitch with Wilson it’ll be just behind him and one of the three midfielders will have to get dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 He'll start through the middle eventually as Wilson will more than likely get injured at some point given his record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I'm not too worried about it, he's young, Eddie likes to take time to bring new signings in, and we're already winning. Imagine bringing Isak in for the last 30 minutes instead of Chris Wood, sounds fucking great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I thought he looked wicked in the glimpse we got, especially for someone just off the plane. The goals against Liverpool were sensational and its only the other crappy narratives about that match that stopped him getting the credit he deserved. The one-on-one he missed against Bournemouth? Palace? was down entirely to him solo pressing. He's got the same languid look about him as Chris Waddle, he doesn't look like he's giving 100% but it is very deceptive. Callum Wilson is extremely sharp but needs goals created for him. Isak looks more capable of doing it on his own. Prem players listed by expected goals per 90, 200 mins minimum to qualify. The offside goal against Liverpool will not count in his xG. If you look at non-penalty xG, Isak is still eighth, above Salah, Mitro, Harry Kane etc. Wilson is fifth. Top is Darwin Nunez, I fully understand folks hating on Liverpool, but that lad is a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Is there any evidence to this 'He can play on the side of a 3'? Sure when I looked up his stats when he signed he'd played like 50-60 centrally and maybe 1 or 2 on a side. Only ever seen him at euros at CF. Im sure I heard a Spanish football reporter who’d been interviewed saying he’s flexible and can play across the front 3. Either way he’s in good hands with Howe coaching wise and we’ll get the best out of him. He gives us so many options. Bring Wilson off at 70 and move him inside if he starts right or left or bring him on off the bench. He’ll be great away from home with his lace too. The thing is if Miggy keeps playing the way he is and Isak starts smashing it ASM is going to have to work hard to get back into this side which is what you want. It’s ridiculous but he will be like a new signing ? Edited November 16, 2022 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 My still snoozing dreamy crystal ball says Eddie refuses to change a winning team in the league. Alex can’t get a start and compensates for this by playing the best football of his career, scoring in every round of the league cup, topped off with a brace to win us the final. I’d be happy keeping £60+ million on the bench in that scenario! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I think he might be competing with Maxi for the left-sided slot, if Wilson stays fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 A front three doesn't necessarily mean two wingers and a striker, and we see that all the time in Howe's system. In a fluid front two/three I can see Isak as a left forward playing the channels, dropping back, tucking in, all without encroaching on Wilson's position. Think of Henry, he was a centre forward, often playing with a striking partner, but on a heat map he'd classified more as a left inside forward. Drifting wide, cutting in and curling with his right. How many times did we not see that? I imagine Isak could have a similar role "on the left" and it probably even being his best position, playing to his strengths. Anyway, what a strange feeling to actually have faith in the manager to work it all out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, Unlucky Luque said: A front three doesn't necessarily mean two wingers and a striker, and we see that all the time in Howe's system. In a fluid front two/three I can see Isak as a left forward playing the channels, dropping back, tucking in, all without encroaching on Wilson's position. Think of Henry, he was a centre forward, often playing with a striking partner, but on a heat map he'd classified more as a left inside forward. Drifting wide, cutting in and curling with his right. How many times did we not see that? I imagine Isak could have a similar role "on the left" and it probably even being his best position, playing to his strengths. Anyway, what a strange feeling to actually have faith in the manager to work it all out And to compare one of our players to Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 starts in the cup, then away to leicester?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I’ve no doubt he can do the attacking side of a wide attacker role. But chasing fullbacks? That’s a whole new challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 from what I read about him at the time he signed, Isak considers himself a 'modern striker', able to play anywhere across the front line. He's not a stranger to the high press either, he seems perfect for Eddie's system and I have no doubt whatsoever he will be a success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I’ve no doubt he can do the attacking side of a wide attacker role. But chasing fullbacks? That’s a whole new challenge. 2 minutes ago, Holloway said: from what I read about him at the time he signed, Isak considers himself a 'modern striker', able to play anywhere across the front line. He's not a stranger to the high press either, he seems perfect for Eddie's system and I have no doubt whatsoever he will be a success Mentioned, elsewhere, I watched the Chelsea game again on their channel. Was interesting listening to their two commentators. When they were on about our press and, even, how Wood was putting a shift in they mentioned "you can imagine it being even more difficult for us with Wilson racing in" Isak can do it too, no probs, as seen v Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: My still snoozing dreamy crystal ball says Eddie refuses to change a winning team in the league. Alex can’t get a start and compensates for this by playing the best football of his career, scoring in every round of the league cup, topped off with a brace to win us the final. I’d be happy keeping £60+ million on the bench in that scenario! Yeah but I can't see Isak being too happy with that. Howe will have to fit him in somewhere and I'm sure he will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Mentioned, elsewhere, I watched the Chelsea game again on their channel. Was interesting listening to their two commentators. When they were on about our press and, even, how Wood was putting a shift in they mentioned "you can imagine it being even more difficult for us with Wilson racing in" Isak can do it too, no probs, as seen v Liverpool There's pressing the GK and CB's and blocking passing lanes into midfield. And then there's running back with the fullback by our defensive corner flag and not being done by basic 1-2's. It's an entirely different thing. Edited November 16, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Not to say he can't do it. It's that he hasn't and it's a new thing for him from a defensive perspective that involves a lot more running. I think eventually when we have the ball more - that role would be easier for a player like Isak. At the moment, those wide forwards have to do A LOT of defensive work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bishops Finger said: Yeah but I can't see Isak being too happy with that. Howe will have to fit him in somewhere and I'm sure he will He needs to be patient as well though. He'll get a chance, like you say Eddie will have a plan for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I think many underestimate Isak and what he can offer in the centre forward position, assuming it will be Wilson’s to keep. I mean, what he did vs Liverpool in his first game after a few days of training with the team was already pretty special. I really think Wilson will be our super sub going forward, playing depending on what we need to beat the opposition, coming on to see games out, brought on as a second striker when we’re behind, etc. He’ll get plenty of playing time but before long Isak will be a mainstay in the centre forward position. This should hopefully aid Wilson’s longevity too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Seems ideal for the press. Deceptively quick, long legs to pinch the ball, and a brain (not many of them have this). My awful memory can even picture him nicking the ball off people a few times in the minimal time he's had. Talking about this guy is to much for me, never thought my favourite current player would be one that played a few games and hasn't been seen since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Stottie said: I thought he looked wicked in the glimpse we got, especially for someone just off the plane. The goals against Liverpool were sensational and its only the other crappy narratives about that match that stopped him getting the credit he deserved. The one-on-one he missed against Bournemouth? Palace? was down entirely to him solo pressing. He's got the same languid look about him as Chris Waddle, he doesn't look like he's giving 100% but it is very deceptive. Callum Wilson is extremely sharp but needs goals created for him. Isak looks more capable of doing it on his own. Prem players listed by expected goals per 90, 200 mins minimum to qualify. The offside goal against Liverpool will not count in his xG. If you look at non-penalty xG, Isak is still eighth, above Salah, Mitro, Harry Kane etc. Wilson is fifth. Top is Darwin Nunez, I fully understand folks hating on Liverpool, but that lad is a player. This is what excites me about him as well. The goals against Liverpool were genuine striker goals, he's not going to be as good as Wilson at holding the ball up necessarily, but there will be games where he can attack the space in behind, especially against the better sides and it looks like he's a very good finisher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 From the little i've seen, Wilson has better "box instincts" and movement in the box. Isak seems more a channel runner, not one to hold it up and link up just yet. Wilson is pretty decent at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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